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    • LindonL
      Lindon
      last edited by

      ...anyway.....back to Rule Tec.....

      I'm intrigued how this "modeling" was done... - clearly the specifics of the model params are Orange's IP so I'm not asking for that, but I cant see where I would start to build a model-based audio processor in HISE, any clues?

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      • orangeO
        orange @Lindon
        last edited by orange

        @Lindon There are many ways to do this.

        One way is circuit modeling (Analog Obsession does it). But it is hard to do with Hise and requires extra C++ work.

        The second way is non linear IR technology (Acoustica Audio does that) and Hise doesn't support that too.

        The third way is measuring (vintage way). In order to do it, you need original machine. The Basically what I did is measuring and recording the original machine's parameter data step by step. (I recoreded a huge data and prepared a big data table for that.) And then I matematically modeled with equations (approx. 2000 interactive equations) to achieve this results. Then tell the Hise how to do that.

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        macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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        • LindonL
          Lindon @orange
          last edited by

          @orange yeah its that last bit "then tell Hise how to do that" - you did it in javascript? and changed what EQ? Gain?

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @Lindon
            last edited by

            @Lindon Custom C++ module or script FX perhaps...

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              Win Conway @d.healey
              last edited by

              @d-healey nearly everything can be done by adjusting gain (EQ, Volume) and saturation, I have worked with a bunch of well respected developers whose models are just comparitive volume and distortion, but dont for one moment think that is easy, it takes a lot of intricate measurements.

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              • orangeO
                orange @Lindon
                last edited by orange

                @Lindon said in About Rule Tec:

                @orange yeah its that last bit "then tell Hise how to do that" - you did it in javascript? and changed what EQ? Gain?

                @d-healey said in About Rule Tec:

                @Lindon Custom C++ module or script FX perhaps...

                Yeah hybrid solution with Custom C++ module and Hise script fx.

                The hardest thing about Pultec and bunch of other analog hardware is all of the parameters are interactive and non-linear. For example in Pultec, Low Atten knob doesn't react the same if the low boost is there, so that is a total pain for modeling. You can make only individual controls but the plugin won't sound like original machine. Or same with high boost and atten. You need to measure lot's of values, bring them together and make mathematically modeling.

                Hise is capable of much more than what people think. Not only for vsti. Wait for hnode.... @Christoph-Hart

                develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                • JayJ
                  Jay
                  last edited by Jay

                  @orange What do I have to enable or add in my vst to add the (host automation)?

                  Like when you touch a knob in the plugin, the DAW knows what knob it is

                  Joansi Villalona

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                  • orangeO
                    orange @Jay
                    last edited by orange

                    @Jay
                    Adjust this settings in the knob/button that will be automated
                    "isPluginParameter": Enabled
                    "pluginParameterName": Your parameter name that will be displayed in the daw automation (Gain, freq, treshold....etc)

                    develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                    macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                    • JayJ
                      Jay @orange
                      last edited by

                      @orange thanks again buddy

                      Joansi Villalona

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                      • Tod SlaughterT
                        Tod Slaughter
                        last edited by

                        Bought it. Lovely EQ!

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                        • orangeO
                          orange @Tod Slaughter
                          last edited by

                          @Tod-Slaughter said in About Rule Tec:

                          Bought it. Lovely EQ!

                          Thanks ;)

                          develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                          macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                            Win Conway
                            last edited by

                            Just bumping this for two reasons, 1 it is pretty much the nost notable release from HISEin terms of industry coverage and adulation, 2 it shows that HISE is a real powerhouse for effects and we really need that VSTfx (an fx version of the vst to design in) build for developing too.

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                            • resonantR
                              resonant @Win Conway
                              last edited by resonant

                              @Win-Conway Yeah definately.

                              I wish @Christoph-Hart could make improvements and remove the issues for fx plugins that was previously mentioned before.

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