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    • David HealeyD
      David Healey @CyberGen
      last edited by

      @CyberGen Got a snippet?

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      • CyberGenC
        CyberGen @David Healey
        last edited by CyberGen

        @d-healey yes, a super basic one.

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        I think a good work around could be to just control the intensity in whatever proxy global modulator you set up. I'm just wondering if there is a way it would work like normal envelopes so I don't have to rewrite so much of my code. They do have the bipolar arrows, they just don't seem to do anything.

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        • David HealeyD
          David Healey @CyberGen
          last edited by David Healey

          @CyberGen Do you have an example with the envelope in bipolar mode connected to a parameter in the way you want? I'm trying to figure out what you mean by bipolar in the context of a filter. Perhaps you could also add a non-global modulator in the example as well so I can see how it should behave.

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          • CyberGenC
            CyberGen @David Healey
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            @d-healey Yes, sorry, I was focused on the global envelope. So I included a bipolar filter with it's envelope and a bipolar global modulator.
            Like I mentioned above, you can control the intensity of the modulator and get around the problem, but then why use the global envelope if you still have to control individual intensities?

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            • David HealeyD
              David Healey
              last edited by

              I'm not seeing a difference in behaviour, what am I missing?

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              • CyberGenC
                CyberGen @David Healey
                last edited by

                @d-healey the difference is that you can't go negative in the global envelope. Only through it's proxy.

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                • David HealeyD
                  David Healey @CyberGen
                  last edited by

                  @CyberGen Proxy? Do you mean the target? That's correct behaviour, because you may want to apply the envelope in multiple places, some bipolar, some not. The global envelope isn't aware of where you are using it or in what context.

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                  • CyberGenC
                    CyberGen @David Healey
                    last edited by

                    @d-healey said in Bipolar Global Envelope Intensity. How to set it -100 to +100?:

                    The global envelope isn't aware of where you are using it or in what context.

                    I understand. But can you set the global envelope to negative? I mean the arrows must be there for a reason no?

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                    • David HealeyD
                      David Healey @CyberGen
                      last edited by

                      @CyberGen The global envelope itself just goes 0-1, I think the arrows are a ui remnant. The target is where you set how you want the modulation to be applied.

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                      • CyberGenC
                        CyberGen @David Healey
                        last edited by

                        @d-healey Got it. Thank you for clarifying that.

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                        • LindonL
                          Lindon @CyberGen
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                          @CyberGen I think we really need to have a serious re-visit of the idea of intensity when applied to targets - for instance I'd really like to be able to modulate the depth of these (so the part currently showing 0.54 :

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                          Yes Im sure I could use a cable with a callback - but still it'd be nice ot have it "just there"

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                            David Healey @Lindon
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