Bipolar Global Envelope Intensity. How to set it -100 to +100?

[CyberGen]

Hi all,

I'm giving global envelopes another try but need some help.

Non-global bipolar envelopes, such as a filter envelope, have an intensity bar that ranges from -100 to +100. However, in the case of a global envelope, the intensity bar ranges from 0 to +1, even when set to bipolar. My question is: can it be set to -100 to +100? If so, how? If not, is there a work around to be able to use a global envelope as a true bipolar envelope?

[d.healey]

@CyberGen Got a snippet?

[CyberGen]

@d-healey yes, a super basic one.

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I think a good work around could be to just control the intensity in whatever proxy global modulator you set up. I'm just wondering if there is a way it would work like normal envelopes so I don't have to rewrite so much of my code. They do have the bipolar arrows, they just don't seem to do anything.

[d.healey]

@CyberGen Do you have an example with the envelope in bipolar mode connected to a parameter in the way you want? I'm trying to figure out what you mean by bipolar in the context of a filter. Perhaps you could also add a non-global modulator in the example as well so I can see how it should behave.

[CyberGen]

@d-healey Yes, sorry, I was focused on the global envelope. So I included a bipolar filter with it's envelope and a bipolar global modulator.
Like I mentioned above, you can control the intensity of the modulator and get around the problem, but then why use the global envelope if you still have to control individual intensities?

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[d.healey]

I'm not seeing a difference in behaviour, what am I missing?

[CyberGen]

@d-healey the difference is that you can't go negative in the global envelope. Only through it's proxy.

[d.healey]

@CyberGen Proxy? Do you mean the target? That's correct behaviour, because you may want to apply the envelope in multiple places, some bipolar, some not. The global envelope isn't aware of where you are using it or in what context.

[CyberGen]

@d-healey said in Bipolar Global Envelope Intensity. How to set it -100 to +100?:

The global envelope isn't aware of where you are using it or in what context.

I understand. But can you set the global envelope to negative? I mean the arrows must be there for a reason no?

[d.healey]

@CyberGen The global envelope itself just goes 0-1, I think the arrows are a ui remnant. The target is where you set how you want the modulation to be applied.

[CyberGen]

@d-healey Got it. Thank you for clarifying that.

[Lindon]

@CyberGen I think we really need to have a serious re-visit of the idea of intensity when applied to targets - for instance I'd really like to be able to modulate the depth of these (so the part currently showing 0.54 :

Yes Im sure I could use a cable with a callback - but still it'd be nice ot have it "just there"

[d.healey]

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