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    • gorangroovesG
      gorangrooves @ThinkTank
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      @ThinkTank Do not overlook AAX! It is an absolute must, despite what hoops you may need to jump through. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.

      Reach out to devauth@avid.com and get set up as a developer. Avid will get PACE to waive the signing tools fee. They have been great to deal with.

      Once you set things up with scripts, it won't be difficult to re-sign things when recompiling software. Things are only challenging when you are doing them for the first time.

      I regretted taking the advice of not doing AAX right away.

      For skilled developers, doing these Apple and PACE extra steps are burdensome because they are out of their comfort zones. But for somebody who is struggling with everything (like me), it is just another little step of struggle. 😉

      Goran Rista
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      Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
      https://library.gorangrooves.com

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @gorangrooves
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        @gorangrooves said in Exported vst3 for Windows, now macOS?:

        Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.

        I'm not using it :D

        Libre Wave - Freedom respecting instruments and effects
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        • gorangroovesG
          gorangrooves @d.healey
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          @d-healey and you have no idea of what you are missing out on!

          Goran Rista
          https://gorangrooves.com

          Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
          https://library.gorangrooves.com

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @gorangrooves
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            @gorangrooves said in Exported vst3 for Windows, now macOS?:

            @d-healey and you have no idea of what you are missing out on!

            I get a few enquiries about it but my hands are tied by the licensing. So I direct users to external hosts and wrapper plugins.

            Libre Wave - Freedom respecting instruments and effects
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            • ThinkTankT
              ThinkTank @d.healey
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              We need a vst3 wrapper for mac that can run windows plugins!😁

              Without problems that test the limits of your abilities, you can not expand them.

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              • gorangroovesG
                gorangrooves @d.healey
                last edited by

                @d-healey there is more than that. Why are your hands tied by licensing?

                Goran Rista
                https://gorangrooves.com

                Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                  ThinkTank @gorangrooves
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                  @gorangrooves

                  Appreciate the tip. Will try and dig deep once more.

                  Without problems that test the limits of your abilities, you can not expand them.

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @gorangrooves
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                    @gorangrooves said in Exported vst3 for Windows, now macOS?:

                    @d-healey there is more than that. Why are your hands tied by licensing?

                    Can't release AAX as GPL.

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                    • gorangroovesG
                      gorangrooves @d.healey
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                      @d-healey Then change the license how you release the AAX.

                      Goran Rista
                      https://gorangrooves.com

                      Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                      https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey @gorangrooves
                        last edited by d.healey

                        @gorangrooves I'd have to pay for a HISE, JUCE, and PACE/AVID license and I don't see me making that cost back from pro-tools users

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                        • gorangroovesG
                          gorangrooves @d.healey
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                          @d-healey FYI There is no fee for Avid/ PACE. Nobody will chase you from JUCE, and the HISE starting fee is quite reasonable. But yeah, you'd have to decide if/when the moment is right. I went all in.

                          One of the main reasons for me to develop plugins using HISE was the accessibility to as wide of a user base as possible. I didn't want to be limited to Kontakt users or, say, Halion. Part of the accessibility is affordable pricing to end-users. So, covering all grounds is very important for growth. There is a significant Pro Tools user base, especially in pro studios.
                          The mobile platforms are the next frontier.

                          Goran Rista
                          https://gorangrooves.com

                          Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                          https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                          • d.healeyD
                            d.healey @gorangrooves
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                            @gorangrooves said in Exported vst3 for Windows, now macOS?:

                            There is a significant Pro Tools user base, especially in pro studios.

                            But pro-tools is horrible for MIDI :p Are these people buying sample libraries or effects?

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                            • gorangroovesG
                              gorangrooves @d.healey
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                              @d-healey Agree, but yes. You can not underestimate the power of branding. Avid has quite a user base of Pro Tools subscribers. I read somewhere that it was about 200K, which I think is correct.

                              Goran Rista
                              https://gorangrooves.com

                              Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                              https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                              • Christoph HartC
                                Christoph Hart @gorangrooves
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                                @gorangrooves To be honest, I think whether to offer AAX or not ends up being viable highly depends on the product category.

                                With virtual drums you have a much more ProTools leaning user base than David with his orchestral libraries.

                                This aside, you can be pretty sure that I will not lawyer up to sue you for copyright infringement just because you "accidentally" clicked on the wrong button in HISE and export an AAX plugin :)

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                                • d.healeyD
                                  d.healey @Christoph Hart
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                                  @Christoph-Hart said in Exported vst3 for Windows, now macOS?:

                                  @gorangrooves To be honest, I think whether to offer AAX or not ends up being viable highly depends on the product category.

                                  With virtual drums you have a much more ProTools leaning user base than David with his orchestral libraries.

                                  Hmmm maybe I should reconsider it, since Rhapsody is not just for my instruments. ..

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                                  • Christoph HartC
                                    Christoph Hart @d.healey
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                                    @d-healey yup for Rhapsody it might make sense and I think that Sordina would also be a good candidate for Protools.

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                                      yall @Christoph Hart
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                                      @Christoph-Hart apple notarization remains simple but it’s boring.
                                      I created notes so that I just had to copy and paste the lines of code to sign and notarize.
                                      on the other hand I am very afraid of the notarization of windows because I was able to look at some prices and I did not find anything below $300

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                                      • d.healeyD
                                        d.healey @yall
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                                        @yall said in Exported vst3 for Windows, now macOS?:

                                        @Christoph-Hart apple notarization remains simple but it’s boring.
                                        I created notes so that I just had to copy and paste the lines of code to sign and notarize.
                                        on the other hand I am very afraid of the notarization of windows because I was able to look at some prices and I did not find anything below $300

                                        You should turn those lines into a bash script.

                                        I've just got my renewal notice for my Windows cert. These are the prices I'm seeing

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                                        • Christoph HartC
                                          Christoph Hart @d.healey
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                                          @d-healey wut? They used to cost about 80 bucks a year back when I stopped looking. That‘s some Donald Trump level of grifting right there…

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                                          • d.healeyD
                                            d.healey @Christoph Hart
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                                            @Christoph-Hart These are EV certs, I think the non-EV are cheaper

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