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    • gorangroovesG
      gorangrooves @Christoph Hart
      last edited by

      @Christoph-Hart How do we use Synth.playNoteWithStartOffset()?

      It is not making much sense to me. I have this in the MIDI Script Processor:

      const var OffsetKnob = Content.getComponent("OffsetKnob");
      
      function onNoteOn()
      {
      	local channel = Message.getChannel();
      	local velocity = Message.getVelocity();
      	local number = Message.getNoteNumber();
      	local offset = OffsetKnob.getValue();
      
      	Synth.playNoteWithStartOffset(channel, number, velocity, offset);
      	
      	Console.print("Ch: "+ channel + " Vel: " + velocity + " Num: " + number + " Off: " + offset);
      
      }
       
      

      I would expect this to offset all notes in this sampler by the amount set by the knob, but it is not affecting anything. What's procedure for using this, please?

      Goran Rista
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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @gorangrooves
        last edited by

        @gorangrooves You need to have set some start offset value for them in the sampler.

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        • gorangroovesG
          gorangrooves @d.healey
          last edited by

          @d-healey Thanks, Dave. I'll play around with it a bit more. It is kind of weird: setting an offset value to set an offset value?!

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          • Christoph HartC
            Christoph Hart @gorangrooves
            last edited by

            @gorangrooves thats because it needs to increase the preload buffer to be able to skip to the position so it needs to know the max offset you want to use in advance.

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            • gorangroovesG
              gorangrooves @Christoph Hart
              last edited by

              @Christoph-Hart Thanks, Christoph. Your explanation makes perfect sense, but the naming for that parameter not so much. I don't think it is intuitive. What do you think about renaming it to something like "OffsetBuffer"?

              Goran Rista
              https://gorangrooves.com

              Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
              https://library.gorangrooves.com

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              • d.healeyD
                d.healey @gorangrooves
                last edited by

                @gorangrooves StartOffset is kind of standard since Kontakt uses the same name.

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                • gorangroovesG
                  gorangrooves @d.healey
                  last edited by

                  @d-healey I am referring to the "SampleStartMod".
                  "StartOffset" is self-explanatory.
                  "SampleStartMod" is not.

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                  https://gorangrooves.com

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                  https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @gorangrooves
                    last edited by

                    @gorangrooves Yeah it's the same in Kontakt. In fact I think it's shortened to S. Mod in Kontakt. It's short for Sample Start Modulation Range. But of course for someone who isn't familiar with that it does seem like a strange choice.

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                    • gorangroovesG
                      gorangrooves @d.healey
                      last edited by

                      @d-healey "range" is the keyword here. "Buffer" or "range" would make it more self-explanatory and less confusing.

                      Goran Rista
                      https://gorangrooves.com

                      Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                      https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                      • Christoph HartC
                        Christoph Hart @gorangrooves
                        last edited by

                        @gorangrooves The problem is that this name is hardcoded as ID into samplemaps so unless I'll make an ugly branch like this to the codebase

                        if(user == "goran" && id == "SampleStartMod")
                        {
                            id = "StartOffset"; 
                        }
                        

                        I don't see a way of changing this without breaking every single HISE project :)

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                        • gorangroovesG
                          gorangrooves @Christoph Hart
                          last edited by

                          @Christoph-Hart 😂😂
                          Nevermind.

                          Goran Rista
                          https://gorangrooves.com

                          Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                          https://library.gorangrooves.com

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