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    • DanHD
      DanH @d.healey
      last edited by

      @d-healey ah right... I'll try the scriptnode version...

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      • DanHD
        DanH @Matt_SF
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        @Matt_SF Right, the midi is working fine but need to get the level out of it somehow πŸ˜†

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart @DanH
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          @DanH Ah I see, yes the root FX container has no concept of voices so it doesn't make sense to give them the voice start modulators.

          The last puzzle piece in your snippet is pretty easy, you're almost there:

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          • Christoph HartC
            Christoph Hart @Christoph Hart
            last edited by

            Oh hang on, that's wrong. What you need to do is this:

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            Now the difference is subtle but you'll need to make sure that both the modulation source and target are in the midichain container. The reason is that the midichain container will chop incoming audio buffers whenever a MIDI message is received so it can apply sample accurate modulation. By putting the add node out of the midi chain you will loose the sample accurate mod value and just apply the value of the last incoming MIDI message to the entire buffer.

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            • DanHD
              DanH @Christoph Hart
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              @Christoph-Hart brilliant, thank you!

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              • DanHD
                DanH @Christoph Hart
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                @Christoph-Hart is the external display buffer meant to work with Envelopes? I can't get it to display on the interface...

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                • DanHD
                  DanH @Christoph Hart
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                  @Christoph-Hart said in Scriptnode Envelope as Global Mod:

                  with the newest update on the mod_matrix branch, you can even use envelopes if you add a uniform voice handler on the root level that ensures that the voices of every sound generator are allocated synchronously.

                  Would you be willing to provide an example of this, and is the mod_matrix branch up to date?

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                  • Christoph HartC
                    Christoph Hart @DanH
                    last edited by

                    @DanH check the ModMatrix project in the tutorials repo.

                    the mod_matrix branch is merged into develop already so you donβ€˜t need to use it explicitely.

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                    • DanHD
                      DanH @Christoph Hart
                      last edited by

                      @Christoph-Hart will do, thanks :)

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                      • DanHD
                        DanH @Christoph Hart
                        last edited by

                        @Christoph-Hart Mod Matrix proj is very interesting! I can't figure out how to actually add the UVH to the root container though, can you point me in the right direction please?

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                        • Christoph HartC
                          Christoph Hart @DanH
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                          Synth.setUseUniformVoiceHandler("Master Chain", true);
                          

                          Obviously you need to change the ID when you rename the patch, but it doesn't get easier than that :)

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                          • DanHD
                            DanH @Christoph Hart
                            last edited by

                            @Christoph-Hart Doh! wasn't looking at the script πŸ˜† Thank you!

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                              DanH @Christoph Hart
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                              • Christoph HartC
                                Christoph Hart @DanH
                                last edited by

                                @DanH If you always name the presets exactly like your project, you can do this:

                                Synth.setUseUniformVoiceHandler(Engine.getProjectInfo().ProjectName, true);
                                

                                But I'm not sure if that is better than just typing in the hardcoded name...

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                                • DanHD
                                  DanH @Christoph Hart
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                                  @Christoph-Hart Ok so should this allow me to be able to use a Global Envelope Modulator at Container level? Because I still don't have the option to do so - unless I need to script it?

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                                  • Christoph HartC
                                    Christoph Hart @DanH
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                                    @DanH Sure you can:

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                                    • DanHD
                                      DanH @Christoph Hart
                                      last edited by

                                      @Christoph-Hart ok but this is how that Snippet looks with a Container... Am I missing something?Screenshot 2023-09-13 at 09.41.05.png Screenshot 2023-09-13 at 09.40.04.png

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                                      • Christoph HartC
                                        Christoph Hart @DanH
                                        last edited by

                                        @DanH Ah now I understand. No the envelopes can never be used on a filter that is on a container level - a container doesn't know what a voice is so you can't use an envelope here.

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                                        • DanHD
                                          DanH @Christoph Hart
                                          last edited by

                                          @Christoph-Hart Ok so there's no way of getting a signal to the container? I would just use the envelope in ScriptNode but it behaves differently to the stock ADHSR envelope so can't even really hack it together....

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                                          • DanHD
                                            DanH @DanH
                                            last edited by

                                            @Christoph-Hart in the Matrix Mod project, how did you create these global cables out of the Global Modulators?

                                            Screenshot 2023-09-19 at 10.11.18.png

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