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    • StraticahS
      Straticah @Lindon
      last edited by

      @Lindon as reference how do analog synths do this? Most of them use LPG or filters to control adsr. :) i want to replicate that.

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @Straticah
        last edited by d.healey

        @Straticah

        Most of them use LPG or filters to control adsr.

        I think you have this reversed.

        An envelope (ADSR in this case) controls a parameter over time. For example you can use an envelope to control a filter's cutoff over time, but you can't use a filter to control an envelope.

        What about assigning a simple envelope to the gain and putting the attack at 0 and the release at 20000. Then assigning an ADSR to your filter parameter?

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        • StraticahS
          Straticah @d.healey
          last edited by

          @d-healey yes you are right i wanted to say the filter gives control over the attack, but the attack is also a parameter which controls a filter. Your example would mean i need a filter in each voice, is there a matching fx module for a polyphonic filter?

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @Straticah
            last edited by

            @Straticah I'm not sure, I haven't looked into this.

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            • StraticahS
              Straticah @d.healey
              last edited by Straticah

              @d-healey can be done with scriptnode polyphonic fx but the filter does not close all so you can hear some notes still ^^ but this can be fixed somehow maybe another filter type

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              • LindonL
                Lindon @Straticah
                last edited by Lindon

                @Straticah
                " i wanted to say the filter gives control over the attack"

                -- what David said: you have this the wrong way round -- the filter cannot sensibly control the envelope, one is a processor of audio - the other is a modulation source.

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                • LindonL
                  Lindon @Straticah
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                  @Straticah said in Filter ADSR?:

                  @d-healey can be done with scriptnode polyphonic fx but the filter does not close all so you can hear some notes still ^^ but this can be fixed somehow maybe another filter type

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                  ..and this I assume is some attempt to get a polyphonic filter ( so each note plays a sound that is then modified by its own filter). Filters dont, classically, work this way - they are applied at the output buss for the sound generator - filters are too expensive to apply on a per note basis - and the routing would be a nightmare.

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                  • StraticahS
                    Straticah @Lindon
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                    @Lindon yes i wasn't talking about hise but about synths in general from the 70s 80s where one or more filters give the ability to fade into the oscillator.
                    because there is a difference in sound if i use a filter or a gain knob. i know that the filter does not control the envelope, but it shapes the amplitude over time.

                    my moog example sound strange maybe does not work in poly

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                    • StraticahS
                      Straticah @Lindon
                      last edited by Straticah

                      @Lindon exactly, but i dont see any problems in that if its not hardware :) maybe limit the voices to 3 like in hardware synths or something but should be possible to give each played voice an own filter with poly scriptnode right? I was thinking about pitch shifting each played note to give it the drift of old synths. (would be best to do this in midi tho and not with the audio signal but also no idea how to do that since this would be a polyphonic midi effect)

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                      • LindonL
                        Lindon @Straticah
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                        @Straticah said in Filter ADSR?:

                        @Lindon exactly, but i dont see any problems in that if its not hardware :) maybe limit the voices to 3 like in hardware synths or something but should be possible to give each played voice an own filter with poly scriptnode right? I was thinking about pitch shifting each played note to give it the drift of old synths. (would be best to do this in midi tho and not with the audio signal but also no idea how to do that since this would be a polyphonic midi effect)

                        -- exactly how will you isolate each notes sound? You could decide you wanted to be 8 note polyphonic and have 8 sounds sources(8 samplers or 8 synths) and round robin assign incoming note to these (monophonic) sound sources, and then have a filter in each sound source, but as I'm sure you can see this becomes impractical very very quickly.

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                        • StraticahS
                          Straticah @Lindon
                          last edited by Straticah

                          @Lindon thats true, but in this example i have exactly what i want each voice has its own filter, all notes have the same envelope tho which is okay. next step would be the drift which can appear on each triggered voice, this has to be midi tho so it does not eat cpu.

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                          • LindonL
                            Lindon @Straticah
                            last edited by Lindon

                            @Straticah said in Filter ADSR?:
                            okay deleting all of this because now I can make it work....hmm...nice

                            hmm. ... but now its leaving that risidual again...

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                            • StraticahS
                              Straticah @Lindon
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                              @Lindon ye i am getting closer last thing would be the voice drift, will make a thread for that and see, maybe it is custom script with a midi container

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                              • lalalandsynthL
                                lalalandsynth @Straticah
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                                @Straticah Why do you want to use only a filter envelope and not a regular VCA/Volume envelope too ?

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                                • LindonL
                                  Lindon @Straticah
                                  last edited by

                                  @Straticah might be better control like this:

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                                  • StraticahS
                                    Straticah @lalalandsynth
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                                    @lalalandsynth i am not that deep into hardware that is outside of eurorack but do oberheim synths or prophets use a volume envelope after the filter envelope?
                                    vca would be a simple gain knob for the signal going into the filter outside of hardware i think

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                                    • StraticahS
                                      Straticah @Lindon
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                                      @Lindon this one would mix the unfiltered sound with the filtered tho which we dont want or am i missing something? :)

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                                      • LindonL
                                        Lindon @Straticah
                                        last edited by Lindon

                                        @Straticah its just your envelope modulated filter - but passing the envelope signal through a scaling function so you can have the envelope apply (start from) a different freq value...

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                                        • ulrikU
                                          ulrik @Straticah
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                                          @Straticah I like what you're doing, interesting! 👍
                                          You can also have an envelope per voice as well, at least in the usual Hise (not script node) , I'm not so familiar with script node yet, but I guess you can accomplish that there as well.

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                                          • lalalandsynthL
                                            lalalandsynth @Straticah
                                            last edited by lalalandsynth

                                            @Straticah Yes, all synths would have a VCA.

                                            Like this ... also with the capability to have the envelope offset by the cutoff point ( although that is not always the case) and be able to invert the envelope.
                                            I would be interested in non poly behaviour as a lot of early mono synths need that behaviour.

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