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    • gorangroovesG
      gorangrooves @orange
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      @orange Thank you. So, there isn't like an exam to sit? I was under the impression there was like an exam that a developer needs to pass, like a school exam. Did I completely misunderstand that?

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      • Christoph HartC
        Christoph Hart @gorangrooves
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        @gorangrooves yes lol and I would laugh in their face if they would ask me to write an exam :)

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        • orangeO
          orange @gorangrooves
          last edited by orange

          @gorangrooves said in Getting AAX signed, AVID test etc.:

          @orange Thank you. So, there isn't like an exam to sit? I was under the impression there was like an exam that a developer needs to pass, like a school exam. Did I completely misunderstand that?

          Oh, the exam you mentioned is for being a "Certified Developer" that will also allow selling your products on "Avid Marketplace" under the "Avid Alliance Program". https://www.avid.com/alliance-partner-program/developer-certification

          But for building and selling AAX plugins on your website, you don't need that. Contact to Avid and ask for a developer account: devauth@avid.com

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          • Matt_SFM
            Matt_SF @orange
            last edited by

            @orange I'm jumping in because I'm on the verge of building AAX versions of my plugins too, and I have a question about codesigning.
            Correct me if I'm wrong :
            From what I understood, codesigning AAX plugins is free unless you want to protect them with the iLok system, in which case you have to buy a license from PACE. Is that right ? Or will I be "forced" to buy a license from PACE anyway ?

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            • orangeO
              orange @Matt_SF
              last edited by orange

              @Matt_SF said in Getting AAX signed, AVID test etc.:

              @orange I'm jumping in because I'm on the verge of building AAX versions of my plugins too, and I have a question about codesigning.
              Correct me if I'm wrong :
              From what I understood, codesigning AAX plugins is free unless you want to protect them with the iLok system, in which case you have to buy a license from PACE. Is that right ? Or will I be "forced" to buy a license from PACE anyway ?

              PACE code-signing process is for free if you are just signing the AAX plugins. If you are registered as a developer to Avid, they will notify the PACE and PACE will enroll you in a developer subscription plan for free (regular price $500 per year). Of course, you need to buy an iLok USB stick yourself and then link that iLok to your PACE account for code signing (using EDEN Tools). In this case, iLok is just for AAX plugin code signing, not for the plugin's license authorization.

              PACE code signing is just for protecting the AAX plugin users (Pro Tools and other Avid product users) from malicious software and proving that this plugin version is signed by the developer.

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              • Matt_SFM
                Matt_SF @orange
                last edited by

                @orange aaaah thank you very much for bringing me the light! 🙂

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                • gorangroovesG
                  gorangrooves
                  last edited by

                  @orange Thanks a lot for all the info and for clarifying the "exam" portion. Yeah, I am not interested in selling at Avid graveyard, I mean, marketplace. :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                  So, to recap: I need to sign up with Avid for a developer account, which will enable me to code-sign the compiled AAX plugins, that I can then sell on my own. Correct?

                  Goran Rista
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                  Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
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                  • Christoph HartC
                    Christoph Hart @gorangrooves
                    last edited by

                    @gorangrooves You also need an iLok USB dongle to code sign it and a valid code certificate on each platform (on macOS you can use the one that comes with your Apple Developer account and on Windows you can port the one you have from macOS as self signed certificate (using the .p12 file format). It's not as "secure" as a real code signing certificate but I couldn't care less about this...

                    Oh and if you only do this because of the troll in your YouTube video, don't bother that's an idiot :)

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @Christoph Hart
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                      @Christoph-Hart said in Getting AAX signed, AVID test etc.:

                      Oh and if you only do this because of the troll in your YouTube video, don't bother that's an idiot :)

                      I saw that too and thought the same thing.

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                      • orangeO
                        orange @gorangrooves
                        last edited by orange

                        @gorangrooves said in Getting AAX signed, AVID test etc.:

                        So, to recap: I need to sign up with Avid for a developer account, which will enable me to code-sign the compiled AAX plugins, that I can then sell on my own. Correct?

                        Yes correct. Like Christoph said, you need to buy the iLok usb stick and then just follow the PACE support guide that they will give to you.

                        Pro Tools is one of the most used professional major DAWs in the World, so IMO supporting AAX is very important. That will make your brand look more reliable (especially for a new company) and more accessible to the professional users around the World. More platforms you support means more potential customers.

                        Just FYI, sharing info or code about AAX code-signing is under Avid's NDA and it is forbidden to share the info public. So just contact to PACE for code signing topics.

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                        macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                        • Christoph HartC
                          Christoph Hart @orange
                          last edited by

                          Pro Tools is one of the most used professional major DAWs in the World, so IMO supporting AAX is very important. That will make your brand look more reliable (especially for a new company) and more accessible to the professional users around the World.

                          At least now we know @orange's secret second YouTube account :)

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                          • orangeO
                            orange @d.healey
                            last edited by orange

                            “I treat every problem that I hear about from a customer as an opportunity to improve,” - Jeff Bezos

                            :P

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                            • orangeO
                              orange @Christoph Hart
                              last edited by orange

                              @Christoph-Hart said in Getting AAX signed, AVID test etc.:

                              Pro Tools is one of the most used professional major DAWs in the World, so IMO supporting AAX is very important. That will make your brand look more reliable (especially for a new company) and more accessible to the professional users around the World.

                              At least now we know @orange's secret second YouTube account :)

                              Ahahah, nah that's not my way 🙂

                              develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                              macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                              • gorangroovesG
                                gorangrooves
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                                Thanks a lot, guys. I have an iLok and also a 3rd party certificate that I use to sign my Win installers. I assume I should be able to use it.

                                The reason for AAX is not because of the frustrated dude on YouTube :) One of the main reasons I opted for HISE and not Kontakt, for example, is that I didn't want to limit the reach of my products. Not supporting AAX locks me out of most high-end studios and producers.

                                We had a few sales after Pro Tools Experts reviewed the plugins, but I am sure that is only a fraction of the potential since most of their users are ProTools users, for example. I would have gone for the AAX support right from the get-go had I better understood what was involved.

                                Once we introduce the AAX format, it will make for a nice news update and other tweaks I am preparing. 😊

                                Goran Rista
                                https://gorangrooves.com

                                Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                                https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                                • DanHD
                                  DanH @gorangrooves
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                                  What's the email people have written to to get a dev account with Avid (in order to sign AAX plugins for Pro Tools). I keep emailing devauth@avid.com but get nothingback :grinning_squinting_face:

                                  DHPlugins / DC Breaks | Artist / Producer / DJ / Developer
                                  https://dhplugins.com/ | https://dcbreaks.com/
                                  London, UK

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                                  • Matt_SFM
                                    Matt_SF @DanH
                                    last edited by

                                    @DanH that's the correct email I believe. I wrote to this address last August and got an answer in a coiple of days...

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                                    • gorangroovesG
                                      gorangrooves @DanH
                                      last edited by

                                      @DanH That's the correct email. Give them a few more days to respond.

                                      Goran Rista
                                      https://gorangrooves.com

                                      Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                                      https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                                      • DanHD
                                        DanH @gorangrooves
                                        last edited by

                                        @gorangrooves they've had 4 months 😆

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                                        https://dhplugins.com/ | https://dcbreaks.com/
                                        London, UK

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                                        • gorangroovesG
                                          gorangrooves @DanH
                                          last edited by

                                          @DanH Oh, that's not good. Did you provide them with all of the info they request?

                                          Goran Rista
                                          https://gorangrooves.com

                                          Handy Drums and Handy Grooves
                                          https://library.gorangrooves.com

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                                          • DanHD
                                            DanH @gorangrooves
                                            last edited by

                                            @gorangrooves no I just asked them how to apply. Where is the list?

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