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    • DanHD
      DanH @A Former User
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      @iamlamprey Rolling back is not impossible but tricky... At least with Intel. I suspect M1 can't be rolled back beyond Big Sur

      DHPlugins / DC Breaks | Artist / Producer / DJ / Developer
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      • ?
        A Former User
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        So something like this is probably the one to grab?

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        • ustkU
          ustk
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          Interesting experience about IPP + M1:
          https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68098717/errors-building-ipp-2021-app-with-9-0-legacy-on-mac-mini-2020-m1

          Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @A Former User
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            @iamlamprey said in Buying my first Mac:

            So something like this is probably the one to grab?

            That one's used and is an i5. More cores is better so if you can find an i7 that would be good, but if you're not going to be using it much then go for the cheapest option.

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            • ?
              A Former User
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              Yeh I'll just be using it to compile, all development is done on my main PC anyway cause Mac is gross

              Thanks everyone :)

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              • d.healeyD
                d.healey @A Former User
                last edited by d.healey

                @iamlamprey said in Buying my first Mac:

                cause Mac is gross

                😊

                You might also want to get a KVM device so you don't need two sets of peripherals and can quickly switch between computers.

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                • orangeO
                  orange @ustk
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                  @ustk said in Buying my first Mac:

                  Interesting experience about IPP + M1:
                  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68098717/errors-building-ipp-2021-app-with-9-0-legacy-on-mac-mini-2020-m1

                  So is using IPP possible on M1 mac?

                  develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                  macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                  • orangeO
                    orange @A Former User
                    last edited by orange

                    @iamlamprey said in Buying my first Mac:

                    So something like this is probably the one to grab?

                    256 GB SSD is pretty low, at least 1 TB would be better. You can upgrade only RAM on these 2018 models, upgrading SSD is not possible. So choose your need at the begining.

                    I assume you'll need to install forthcoming mac operating systems also, not for compiling but to test your plugins.

                    develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                    macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @orange
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                      @orange An external drive is cheaper

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                      • orangeO
                        orange @d.healey
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                        @d-healey said in Buying my first Mac:

                        @orange An external drive is cheaper

                        For storage it can be.

                        But let's say this drive will have Catalina, Big Sur, Monterey and other future macOS releases in different partitions of the same disk, each one will require minimum 100 GB. Besides, booting an operating system from an external drive will be very slow.

                        develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                        macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @orange
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                          @orange said in Buying my first Mac:

                          each one will require minimum 100 GB.

                          I only have a 128GB drive with Big Sur and xcode and I still have about 40GB free.

                          Besides, booting an operating system from an external drive will be very slow.

                          USB3 SSDs are fast enough. I'm booting Windows 10 and Linux Mint from one.

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                          • Dan KorneffD
                            Dan Korneff
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                            Going to try a type 1 hypervisor for Mac virtualization soon.
                            https://youtu.be/lztH7BUxIoM?t=1012

                            This would allow me to run Catalina, Big Sur and Monterey on the same box... simultaneously. with near native performance.

                            If it works with HISE, I'll post some details.

                            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                            • DanHD
                              DanH @d.healey
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                              @d-healey

                              You might also want to get a KVM device so you don't need two sets of peripherals and can quickly switch between computers.

                              What do you use?

                              DHPlugins / DC Breaks | Artist / Producer / DJ / Developer
                              https://dhplugins.com/ | https://dcbreaks.com/
                              London, UK

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                              • d.healeyD
                                d.healey @DanH
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                                @danh https://www.patreon.com/posts/triple-booting-27300608

                                For the USB I have a USB switch thing - https://www.amazon.co.uk/UGREEN-Sharing-Keyboard-Scanner-Printer-Black/dp/B01N6GD9JO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=usb+switch&qid=1636136010&sr=8-3

                                And for the screen I plug both systems into one monitor and use the monitor controls to switch between them.

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User @Dan Korneff
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                                  @dustbro Yes please keep us updated :)

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