LFO Sync Speeds - make slower

d.healey

@Natan said in LFO Sync Speeds - make slower:

latest Layout doesn't export Instruments

Yes it does

Natan

@d-healey Going to build now
Just made the Changes on A version of New layout to check if Things going Good Here with temmpo Knob.

Natan

@DanH Excellent Job, Big up man on the new Half-speeds Tempos :)
Clever move

and I Added the 128 To The End of The lines on both Cpp and .h Codes,
it showed up :folded_hands:
But the timing is not Correct

Going to try This One and see if SpeedsUp 🤩
tempoNames.add("1/128"); tempoFactors[HundredTwentyEighth] = 0.03125f;

DanH

@Natan good luck!

Natan

@DanH This is Strange 1/128 Has no Effect, i Moved the line down, Below The 1/1 on both source codes, and arp still not picking it Up, it sounds like 1/64

Any idea?

DanH

@Natan snippet?

Natan

@DanH Dan, It's just a Sine wave genrator + An Arpeggiator In Midi.

The 1/128 Tempo Value Is There, But Hise won't Pick up the Speed.

I guess we Have Some Limitations on Speed Up, Or @Christoph-Hart Can give a Hint Here

Natan

On master It Located Here:
hi_core/hi_core/UtilityClasses.h

Natan

Okay, I Hacked the Arpeggiator, and Made the speed X2 Time Faster,
Now 1/32 is 1/64
But guess What?!!!

1/32 is The Highest Speed, and Hise wont Go To Uppers speeds, So 1/64 and 1/128 Has no effect
@Christoph-Hart Could you please Help here
I really need My ARPEGGIATOR to go up to 1/128

A Former User

@Natan Well. If you want to go into more granular territory for effect, I suppose you could do your own midi processor with a synth timer that can go incredibly fast... No need to force the arpeggiator into territory where its usefulness is probably ending and the experimental is starting!

DanH

@Natan I’m out but it should work. You’re probably doing something wrong. I’ll check when I’m back but more helpful if you can send the snippet

Natan

@DanH Thanks Dan, If you can Add 1/128 Or Even 1/256 Is Awesome, Not sure what's Wrong with my Changes,
Appreciate Your help mate

DanH

@Natan send me your changes to the source code files

Natan

@DanH Dan, I added the Below Lines

On MiscToolClasses.cpp

    tempoNames.add("32/1");          tempoFactors[ThirtyTwouple] = 128.0f;
    tempoNames.add("16/1");     tempoFactors[Sixteenthuple] = 64.0f;
    tempoNames.add("8/1");      tempoFactors[Octuple] = 32.0f;
    tempoNames.add("4/1");      tempoFactors[Quadruple] = 16.0f;
    tempoNames.add("2/1");      tempoFactors[Double] = 8.0f;
    tempoNames.add("1/128");    tempoFactors[HundredTwentyEighth] = 0.03125f;  ///> THIS IS 1/128
    tempoNames.add("1/1");      tempoFactors[Whole] = 4.0f;
    tempoNames.add("1/2D");         tempoFactors[HalfDuet] = 2.0f * 1.5f;
    tempoNames.add("1/2");      tempoFactors[Half] = 2.0f;
    tempoNames.add("1/2T");     tempoFactors[HalfTriplet] = 4.0f / 3.0f;
    tempoNames.add("1/4D");         tempoFactors[QuarterDuet] = 1.0f * 1.5f;
    tempoNames.add("1/4");      tempoFactors[Quarter] = 1.0f;
    tempoNames.add("1/4T");     tempoFactors[QuarterTriplet] = 2.0f / 3.0f;
    tempoNames.add("1/8D");         tempoFactors[EighthDuet] = 0.5f * 1.5f;
    tempoNames.add("1/8");      tempoFactors[Eighth] = 0.5f;
    tempoNames.add("1/8T");     tempoFactors[EighthTriplet] = 1.0f / 3.0f;
    tempoNames.add("1/16D");    tempoFactors[SixteenthDuet] = 0.25f * 1.5f;
    tempoNames.add("1/16");     tempoFactors[Sixteenth] = 0.25f;
    tempoNames.add("1/16T");            tempoFactors[SixteenthTriplet] = 0.5f / 3.0f;
    tempoNames.add("1/32D");    tempoFactors[ThirtyTwoDuet] = 0.125f * 1.5f;
    tempoNames.add("1/32");     tempoFactors[ThirtyTwo] = 0.125f;
    tempoNames.add("1/32T");    tempoFactors[ThirtyTwoTriplet] = 0.25f / 3.0f;
    tempoNames.add("1/64D");    tempoFactors[SixtyForthDuet] = 0.125f * 0.5f * 1.5f;
    tempoNames.add("1/64");     tempoFactors[SixtyForth] = 0.125f * 0.5f;
    tempoNames.add("1/64T");    tempoFactors[SixtyForthTriplet] = 0.125f / 3.0f;

On MiscToolClasses.h

/** The note values. */
    enum Tempo
    {
                ThirtyTwouple = 0,
        Sixteenthuple,
        Octuple,
        Quadruple,
        Double,
        HundredTwentyEighth, ///> THIS IS 1/128
        Whole, ///< a whole note (1/1)
        HalfDuet, ///< a half note duole (1/2D)
        Half, ///< a half note (1/2)
        HalfTriplet, ///< a half triplet note (1/2T)
        QuarterDuet, ///< a quarter note duole (1/4D)
        Quarter, ///< a quarter note (1/4)
        QuarterTriplet, ///< a quarter triplet note (1/4T)
        EighthDuet, ///< a eight note duole (1/8D)
        Eighth, ///< a eighth note (1/8)
        EighthTriplet, ///< a eighth triplet note (1/8T)
        SixteenthDuet, ///< a sixteenth duole (1/16D)
        Sixteenth, ///< a sixteenth note (1/16)
        SixteenthTriplet, ///< a sixteenth triplet (1/16T)
        ThirtyTwoDuet, ///< a 32th duole (1/32D)
        ThirtyTwo, ///< a 32th note (1/32)
        ThirtyTwoTriplet, ///< a 32th triplet (1/32T)
        SixtyForthDuet, ///< a 64th duole (1/64D)
        SixtyForth, ///< a 64th note (1/64)
        SixtyForthTriplet, ///> a 64th triplet 1/64T)

        numTempos
    };

DanH

@Natan thanks. It doesn’t make sense to put 128 below 1/1. Why don’t you put it at the end after 1/64t? And I would change the calculation to 0.125 * 0.25 and see if that works.
Did you make sure you changed the knob value to reflect the new amount of values / tempos?

Natan

@DanH Dan,
I tried that and placed it at the very end of list,
It has no effect, or maybe my calculations are wrong.

Thank you mate looking gorward to your Try

DanH

@Natan did you try my calculation? Did the slower speeds work? I’m not sure I have time to try it today

Natan

@DanH Like This?

  tempoNames.add("1/128"); tempoFactors[HundredTwentyEighth] = 0.125f * 0.25f;

Natan

@DanH @Christoph-Hart @ustk
Nope, no glory here,
I Guess Hise can Go over 1/64
I guess there is A limitation wall on speeding up the Tempo

2/1 as you Described works perfectly,
and Please pay attention to 1/64 and 1/128
Both sound the same :/

Natan

@DanH Dan, Mate have you seen The Video :up_arrow:

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