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    • staiffS
      staiff
      last edited by

      gasp 3.7 SDK ....

      before HISE i worked with rackafx (with VS2015 and SDK 3.6.6) and all worked fine. For now the latest Rackafx work with VS2017 and SDK 3.7 and all customers reports problems.

      so i use the 1.5.0 version of Hise (not the 1.5.1 because all work fine with the 1.5.0.0 and like said my Grandma "if it works well, why change it to another ?") and of course the 3.6.6 of SDK.

      for Hise, Christoph has made the .exe installer and the source code, but i prefer just download the source code and compiling my .exe with the projucer files included in the source code. With this i'm sure to use the right/good version of all ;)

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      • resonantR
        resonant
        last edited by resonant

        I've tried everything.

        • Uninstalled VS2017 and installed VS2015
        • Replaced SDK 3.7 with SDK 3.6.6
        • Used HISE versions; 1.5.2 - 1.5.0 - 1.1.2 - (Every version used with 2 variations: compiled from source code & used readty to use exe.
        • IPP 2018 update 1 removed. IPP 2017 update 3 installed (FX Plugin exported with IPP & without IPP. Both doesn't work)
        • Used DAW FL Studio 12. (I'vecompiled some libraries directly from Juce and they worked in FL studio. But when Hise exports anything as FX Plugin, it doesn't work)

        The sound is like high gained distorted! I really don't know what to do :(

        Exported Reverb Plugin: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uxnqidlxe98f5tr/Z5 x64.rar?dl=0

        By the way; VS2015 asked me Windows SDK 8.1 and I've installed it. Also I've upgraded VS2015 with upgrade v.3.

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        • staiffS
          staiff
          last edited by staiff

          First of all you have another problem in your .dll
          the background image is not available:

          Reaper: idem
          alt text

          as you can see on the left my plugin have no problem (because using JSON data for pictures).

          i've also this kind of problem if i don't use JSON data for pictures.
          so:

          const var bgImage = Content.addImage("bgImage", 0, 0);
          // [JSON bgImage]
          Content.setPropertiesFromJSON("bgImage", {
            "width": 505, // put your own size
            "height": 252, // idem
            "fileName": "{PROJECT_FOLDER}Background.png" // your own image - rename it with your .png image name
          });
          // [/JSON bgImage]
          

          not sure, but it could cause the problem in the sound. as you could see, the settings of your reverb isn't available due to the image error.

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          • resonantR
            resonant
            last edited by

            Hmm

            Yes there is a graphical error for my project; but Dynamics FX example has the same sound. That is not made by me. Could be something different?

            Also when you click the error text, it show the knobs.

            This is the source code of this plugin: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zm1mfdro9jbr703/Z5.rar?dl=0

            I would be so happy that you help me about this.

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            • staiffS
              staiff
              last edited by

              this project use all (or pretty close) of the HISE FX and works well ...
              http://forum.hise.audio/topic/536/my-actual-project-video-link

              so not sure that the FX cause directly problem.

              will download the project and see what's wrong.

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              • staiffS
                staiff
                last edited by staiff

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                • resonantR
                  resonant
                  last edited by

                  Thank you so much for taking your time Staiff, I'm so appreciated.

                  After what you said, I've tried the plugin on differnt daws, what I get is so weird;

                  Sonar (Works)
                  Reaper (Works)
                  Cubase 5 (Works)
                  Cubase 6 (Works)
                  FL Studio 12 (Doesn't work - distorted bad sound) - Tried on 2 different PC's
                  FL Studio 11 (Doesn't work - distorted bad sound) - Tried on 2 different PC's

                  I think FX Plugins has problem with FL Studio :(

                  FYI.....

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                  • staiffS
                    staiff
                    last edited by

                    as i said before i don't have FL (i don't have it because i personaly hate it)

                    i also have Bitwig and reaper that i not use. Why having it ? because they are really good to test plugins. if bitwig and reaper crash or refuse your plugin = bad plugin.

                    studio One (i love and use it) accept all plugin without saying if it's good. So before releasing for friends, i test it in reaper and bitwig.

                    For FL i really don't know with it react like that ...

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                    • resonantR
                      resonant
                      last edited by

                      :) Yes I understand, but if we will make some commercial stuff, it must be work on every daw.
                      So so many producers uses FL and, if the plugins do not working here, it is a serious problem, I think.

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                      • resonantR
                        resonant
                        last edited by

                        By the way, I like your Linndrum emulation. Is it a synth, or sampler?

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                        • Christoph HartC
                          Christoph Hart
                          last edited by

                          I‘ll recheck FL Studio, but HISE is definitely supposed to support every major host. This DAW is a bit different because it varies buffer sizes randomly and to make things even more complicated, there are a few settings which cause trouble if enabled.

                          Can you make a screen shot of your current settngs dialogue in FL studio then I‘ll try to replicate it.

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                          • resonantR
                            resonant
                            last edited by

                            Thank you Christoph,
                            I'm sure HISE will invade the world in the future.
                            In FL, everyt setting is standard, I'm using FL Studio 12.

                            alt text

                            This is the source code of the plugin: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zm1mfdro9jbr703/Z5.rar?dl=0
                            This is the Exported Reverb Plugin: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uxnqidlxe98f5tr/Z5 x64.rar?dl=0

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                            • Christoph HartC
                              Christoph Hart
                              last edited by

                              Thanks I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Meanwhile you can try to play around with those settings, I am pretty sure you'll get FL Studio to behave when switching a few things on and off.

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                              • resonantR
                                resonant
                                last edited by

                                Yes you are right!
                                When I reduced the buffer size from 512 > to 256, the problem has gone, sound is clear and the plugin workscorrectly :)
                                Alternatively, when I rised buffer size from 512 > to 2048, the sound is going bad and it gives more distorted sound :)

                                So the problem is buffer size, you are right... In this situation, the lower buffersize works better but I tried in 2 different computers and they are giving the same good results with 256. FL Studio has standard 512 buffer size setting when installing.

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                                • staiffS
                                  staiff
                                  last edited by staiff

                                  @remarkablex :
                                  "So so many producers uses FL and, if the plugins do not working here, it is a serious problem, I think."
                                  for sure and that's why, when we decide to create FX and vsti, we lost hairs and drink lot of coffee. :D

                                  @Christoph-Hart :
                                  most of time the big error is just beetween the chair and the keyboard. I know what i mean, when i made mistake i don't understand why. i let it for some times, and after ... when hungry times is gone and reopen project, i see errors and say: "i'm sooooo stupid !" the error is .... ME !
                                  the problem is when we have an idea in mind we must end it before beggining.
                                  for sure it's my problem. HISE is really powerfull and i'm sure we only understand .... 10/15 % of it's capability.
                                  but i understand in this case we are very frustated.

                                  when all works well and the product can be released it's just a pleasure...

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                                  • Christoph HartC
                                    Christoph Hart
                                    last edited by

                                    FL Studio should be "fixed" now (fixed in a sense that it introduces latency to cope with the varying buffer sizes, but at least it won't sound distorted anymore).

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                                    • resonantR
                                      resonant
                                      last edited by resonant

                                      It works great! Thank you so much for your support.
                                      I've used my plugin in FL Studio 12 with all buffer sizes; from 256 to 2048, it works on all of them :)

                                      You are so fast for problem solving :) thank you so much...

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