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    • LindonL
      Lindon @Sawer
      last edited by Lindon

      @nesta99 - did you codesign your plugin? on BigSur it will not load in your DAW if its not codesigned.
      Disabling gatekeeper will not stop the checks running inside Logic.

      HOWEVER, read this:

      Just a moment...

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      (www.kvraudio.com)

      TLDR: - it seems that you cannot build backwards compatible code signed and product signed plugins on BigSur, its missing SH1 based certificates - which, despite being a broken protocol for security, all the other MacOSes require.

      So if you are building on BigSur - you can ONLY ship correctly signed plugins that work on BigSur, they will not work on any other MacOS that requires codesigning - so that is at least Mojave and Catalina - unless I'm reading it wrong.

      @nesta99 - you really really really need to pay attention to the advice that BigSur is NOT supported for HISE and you shouldnt be using it. If you dont have M1 silicon then I would install Catalina, or even better Mojave and rebuild from there.

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        Sawer @Lindon
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        @Lindon Wow, got it. Thanks for explaining to me and thanks for sending me the website!! 😁

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        • DanHD
          DanH @Lindon
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          @Lindon So does this mean that we should really be codesigning if we want to make sure our plugins are compatible for BigSur? I'm building on Mojave, don't have BigSur installed anywhere because, like, why would I :face_with_tears_of_joy:

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          • LindonL
            Lindon @DanH
            last edited by Lindon

            @DanH you need to be codesigning for your plugins to work in any DAW from Mojave onward...so Mojave, Catalina and BigSur

            Your installers and standalone apps also need to be notarized to run on those OSes..

            Check out @d-healey 's all new app to do compiling codesigning and notarizing from one simple interface...

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            • DanHD
              DanH @Lindon
              last edited by

              @Lindon Thanks, I've got @d-healey 's app. All my plugins are working in Mojave and Catalina so far. Haven't got my head around codesigning yet, but it is what we set in the project settings menu in HISE?

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              https://dhplugins.com/ | https://dcbreaks.com/
              London, UK

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                Sawer @DanH
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                @DanH please where can I find this app? And I’ve checked on the internet but still haven’t figured out in what codesign is.. can someone kindly explain

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                • DanHD
                  DanH @Sawer
                  last edited by

                  @nesta99 The App is in Beta for @d-healey's patrons only... But he will release it for everyone soon I think?

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                  https://dhplugins.com/ | https://dcbreaks.com/
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                    Sawer @DanH
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                    @DanH Oh great!! Got it!! So that app will codesign your vst? If I got it...

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @DanH
                      last edited by d.healey

                      @DanH said in Vst not working on MacOs Big Sur:

                      Haven't got my head around codesigning yet, but it is what we set in the project settings menu in HISE?

                      I don't think setting things in HISE will make XCode sign your apps automatically (but I could be wrong) I think you still have to go through the commandline or do some other tweaks in Xcode.

                      @DanH said in Vst not working on MacOs Big Sur:

                      But he will release it for everyone soon I think?

                      Some time next year once it's out of beta. Basically when it's been tested and bug fixed a bunch of times.

                      @nesta99 said in Vst not working on MacOs Big Sur:

                      So that app will codesign your vst? If I got it...

                      It doesn't do the codesigning, it just runs the commandline in the background to do the codesigning for you. You just need to fill in the boxes with the correct details and it will handle the technical stuff. You'll still need an Apple Developer account to notarize.

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                        Sawer @d.healey
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                        @d-healey Great!! Thanks ! I think the best thing to do for now is to downgrade to Mojave..

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                        • LindonL
                          Lindon @DanH
                          last edited by Lindon

                          @DanH said in Vst not working on MacOs Big Sur:

                          @Lindon Thanks, I've got @d-healey 's app. All my plugins are working in Mojave and Catalina so far. Haven't got my head around codesigning yet, but it is what we set in the project settings menu in HISE?

                          No. You will have to do it for each app/plugin individually once you've compiled and tested them ready for shipping.

                          There are many posts here - even one where I document my process :

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                          Notarisation for dummies

                          @Christoph-Hart Ok heres my process: Step 0. build your app and plugins... Step 1: Sign the plugin or app from desktop (copy it there): run these commands in...

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                          Forum (forum.hise.audio)

                          You should understand what this is for/about so I suggest you read this thread - yeah all of it:

                          Just a moment...

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                          • DanHD
                            DanH @Lindon
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                            @Lindon looks like the kids are taking a back seat over christmas then! :face_with_tears_of_joy: :santa_claus_light_skin_tone: (joking)

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                              • d.healeyD
                                d.healey
                                last edited by

                                I have a customer who is having an issue running one of my codesigned/notarized plugins in Logic 10.6.1 on an M1 system running Big Sur. He's saying the plugin doesn't show up in Logic's plugin list. Any ideas?

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                                • LindonL
                                  Lindon @d.healey
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                                  @d-healey is the plugin coed unique? (FILE>Preferences>Project>Plugin Code)Logic is the only DAW I know of that insists every plugin has a unique ID.

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                                  • d.healeyD
                                    d.healey @Lindon
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                                    @Lindon It's unique among my plugins...

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                                    • d.healeyD
                                      d.healey
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                                      Oh it's working now, must have been user error ;)

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                                        yall @d.healey
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                                        @d-healey how did you manage to make a .componant work in logic with mac m1? for my part it is impossible, only the .vst works, when you speak of unique code that does it mean?

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey @yall
                                          last edited by

                                          @yall

                                          how did you manage to make a .componant work in logic with mac m1?

                                          I don't know if my customer is using the AU or the VST.

                                          unique code that does it mean?

                                          Each plugin needs a unique code that you set in the project properties: File >> Preferences.

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                                            yall @d.healey
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                                            @d-healey yes the Abcd code .. each plugin has its own code like Bght for example ... it does not seem to me that logical load the .vst c is for what I ask. j had sent notarized plugins to a mac m1 logic user but not found in logic. I had read on forums and somewhere on another apple developer forum than the. component must be extracted with the universal binary option of xcode. but this option is only available on xcode 12 it seems to me so I gave up. what version of xcode do you have? damn mac m1 ^^

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