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    • ustkU
      ustk @dejans
      last edited by ustk

      @dejans I don't know much about protection, this check sounds good I'll have a look, thanks :)

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      • Casey KolbC
        Casey Kolb
        last edited by Casey Kolb

        All you need to do is encrypt a license.dat file using the machine ID. Every time the plugin opens, just check if the file exists, and if it does, attempt to decrypt it using the machine ID. If HISE can't find the file or can't decrypt, don't show the GUI and disable MIDI. This prevents the user from deleting the file, or moving it to another computer because HISE will only be able to decrypt the file on that machine etc.

        It's just a few lines:

        local data = //whatever you need to store in the file//
        local machineId = FileSystem.getSystemId();
        local appDateDir = FileSystem.getFolder(FileSystem.UserPresets).getParentDirectory();
        appDateDir.getChildFile("license.dat").writeEncryptedObject(data, machineId);
        

        That just stores the file in the directory above the User Presets folder.

        Edit: You might be able to make this cleaner if the FileSystem.AppData constant is working now. Haven't checked

        Casey Kolb
        Founder & CEO of Lunacy Audio
        Composer | Producer | Software Developer

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        • ustkU
          ustk @Casey Kolb
          last edited by

          @Lunacy-Audio I already use something similar, but this alone does not give any protection since it is generated at the opening. Unless you can generate it only once during the registration phase maybe?

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          • Casey KolbC
            Casey Kolb
            last edited by Casey Kolb

            It's actually not generated at the opening. I only generate it when the user first enters their license key, which I then validate with my website's server. If the server response is successful, then I make the file. Every time after that, just check the file again, but don't regenerate it.

            Casey Kolb
            Founder & CEO of Lunacy Audio
            Composer | Producer | Software Developer

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            • dejansD
              dejans
              last edited by dejans

              @Lunacy-Audio @ustk Yep, I'm also using this approach but only to encrypt the registration details file. This can be easily decrypted when the machine id generator code is found/cracked. But the interesting and creative part is that you can hide, let's say some kind of token in the license.dat. It can be a single character at a certain place in the serial, for example. Then at certain points, or based on user activity you do checks for that token (f.e. when a user moves a filter cutoff, you check if lfo is active && the plugin is running at least for 2 hours && token is not valid, then trigger a notification, mute the output, delete the license.dat or do whatever... The point is to make a couple of these checks that happen sparsely. Eventually, it'll be cracked, but hopefully, you can delay the crack long enough to convert a number of pirate users to legitimate ones...

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              • Casey KolbC
                Casey Kolb
                last edited by

                That's interesting for sure. I'll need to dive deeper into that and add some more checks. Thanks!

                Casey Kolb
                Founder & CEO of Lunacy Audio
                Composer | Producer | Software Developer

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                • ustkU
                  ustk @Casey Kolb
                  last edited by

                  @Lunacy-Audio I have approximately the same process added with a limited number of activations/machines, machine ID, and strong encryption to generate a license file.
                  About the time check, I can try to add an API...

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                  • Casey KolbC
                    Casey Kolb @ustk
                    last edited by

                    @ustk Would be appreciated!

                    Casey Kolb
                    Founder & CEO of Lunacy Audio
                    Composer | Producer | Software Developer

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                      LeeC @ustk
                      last edited by

                      @ustk yeah that would be ace... Much appreciated!

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                      • ustkU
                        ustk @Casey Kolb
                        last edited by ustk

                        Guys, does having the number of days since 1970 fit your needs?

                        Do you prefer the system date? or anything?

                        In what format? days, hours, sec, ms, string date...

                        or an object with everything but I don't know if I am able to do that..

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                        • Casey KolbC
                          Casey Kolb @ustk
                          last edited by

                          @ustk I think just being able to grab the current system date and time is super useful. Maybe something like Engine.getSystemDate() returns

                          {
                            year: 2020,
                            month: 11,
                            day: 19,
                            hour: 14,
                            minute: 55,
                            second: 32
                          }
                          

                          πŸ€” But I'm sure there's a better way of returning it. This isn't my forte haha.

                          Casey Kolb
                          Founder & CEO of Lunacy Audio
                          Composer | Producer | Software Developer

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                          • Christoph HartC
                            Christoph Hart
                            last edited by

                            I would suggest to not go down the rabbit hole of trying to outsmart a imaginary cracker. Just make sure your plugin canβ€˜t be copied to multiple machines by a simple user and leave the rest to companies who sell usb dongles for a living...

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                            • ustkU
                              ustk @Casey Kolb
                              last edited by

                              @Lunacy-Audio The juce Time class allows everything we need so it is just a matter of what we need and I'll find a way to make the API
                              Currently, I've made one that gives the number of days since 1970. I've just made a simple conversion since it is originally in milliseconds...

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                              • Casey KolbC
                                Casey Kolb
                                last edited by

                                Sounds reasonable πŸ˜€

                                Casey Kolb
                                Founder & CEO of Lunacy Audio
                                Composer | Producer | Software Developer

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                                • ustkU
                                  ustk @Casey Kolb
                                  last edited by ustk

                                  @Lunacy-Audio What sounds reasonable? ☺

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                                  • Casey KolbC
                                    Casey Kolb
                                    last edited by

                                    The number of days since 1970. Also, the addition of the function I mentioned above would be great too, but no rush.

                                    Casey Kolb
                                    Founder & CEO of Lunacy Audio
                                    Composer | Producer | Software Developer

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                                      LeeC @ustk
                                      last edited by

                                      @ustk The time since 1970 and also any format of system date would be great for now.
                                      If it's too tricky to pull back an object with the attributes that @Lunacy-Audio suggested then a simple string would be useful too.

                                      Appreciate you looking into this for us 🌟
                                      I'm sure it will come in handy for other HISE things outside of copy protection also.

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                                      • ustkU
                                        ustk @Casey Kolb
                                        last edited by ustk

                                        Ok guys I've added the Engine.getSystemTime(bool includeDividerCharacters) API from Juce
                                        it returns a fully described string of the date and time in ISO-8601 format (using the local timezone) with or without divider characters.
                                        It is up to you @Christoph-Hart to merge it of course, but if you find it unnecessary, the mod is easy for anyone interested...

                                        // Returns a string with separator:
                                        2020-11-21T16:07:08.525+01:00
                                        
                                        // Or without separator
                                        20201121T160708.525+0100
                                        

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                                        • dejansD
                                          dejans @ustk
                                          last edited by

                                          @ustk Thank You!

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                                            LeeC @ustk
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                                            @ustk Legend thanks!

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