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    • pcs800P
      pcs800 @d.healey
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      @d-healey That is not possible, every user will have a different folder name

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @pcs800
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        @pcs800 Yup, this is why it's usual to ask the user where they want to place the samples and have the sample installer take care of creating the link file.

        You'll need to figure out how to solve it in your inno setup installer, or from within your HISE script.

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        • pcs800P
          pcs800 @d.healey
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          @d-healey Would I have inno installer script extract the user profile name, and then have it create the LinkWindows file with the exact path in it?

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @pcs800
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            @pcs800 Possibly, I've never tried doing this so I can only offer some vague guidance.

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            • pcs800P
              pcs800 @d.healey
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              @d-healey What about putting them in %SystemDrive%\Program Files\Company\Product\Samples
              %SystemDrive% seems to work

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              • d.healeyD
                d.healey @pcs800
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                @pcs800 I think the path in the link file still has to be an absolute path, but if it works then it works

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                • pcs800P
                  pcs800 @d.healey
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                  @d-healey
                  I am at a loss as to why my installed plugin doesn't make any sound. I have changed directories, stopped using wildcards and rebuilt the installer with inno setup several times. No sound.

                  Everything in the Hise/project/compiled folder gets put here C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Product name
                  Everyting in the project appdata folder including LinkWindows, gets put here {userappdata}\Acoustica\Product Name
                  Samples are being placed here C:\Program Files\Product name\Samples\

                  The LinkWindows file contains the following "C:\Program Files\Product name\Samples

                  Yet when I open the plugin after installing, it asks for the location of the samples. So I choose the folder C:\Program Files\Product name\Samples
                  It then says it found the samples but I need to restart the plugin to make it work.
                  I restart it, no sound.

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @pcs800
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                    @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                    Everything in the Hise/project/compiled folder gets put here C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\

                    You should only be putting the .vst3 file in there

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                    • pcs800P
                      pcs800 @d.healey
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                      @d-healey Just the vst3 file itself, or the vst3 folder and it's contents?
                      So not the shared code folder?

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                      • LindonL
                        Lindon @pcs800
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                        @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                        @d-healey
                        I am at a loss as to why my installed plugin doesn't make any sound. I have changed directories, stopped using wildcards and rebuilt the installer with inno setup several times. No sound.

                        Everything in the Hise/project/compiled folder gets put here C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Product name
                        Everyting in the project appdata folder including LinkWindows, gets put here {userappdata}\Acoustica\Product Name\

                        Is "Acoustica" the name you have used for Company in the Setting/User Settings panel?

                        Samples are being placed here C:\Program Files\Product name\Samples\

                        The LinkWindows file contains the following "C:\Program Files\Product name\Samples

                        Yet when I open the plugin after installing, it asks for the location of the samples. So I choose the folder C:\Program Files\Product name\Samples\

                        So its not reading this LinkWindows file...its looking somewhere else...

                        It then says it found the samples but I need to restart the plugin to make it work.
                        I restart it, no sound.

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @pcs800
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                          @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                          Just the vst3 file itself, or the vst3 folder

                          What do you mean by VST3 folder? On Windows it should just be a file.

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                          • pcs800P
                            pcs800 @d.healey
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                            @d-healey a lot of vst3s live inside of a folder by the same name under the vst3 folder. You can do it either way

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                            • pcs800P
                              pcs800 @Lindon
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                              @Lindon when it presented me with the message to either extract or browse for a folder which contains the samples, I chose to browse for the folder. The folder where I know the samples are because I looked. It accepted that folder but still doesn't make any sound. Could this be something related to the sample module or MIDI velocity settings Within hise?

                              To sort of answer my own question, on the development machine, when I export to vst3, then I copy the vst3 to the windows vst3 folder, then bring the plug-in up in a daw, it works just fine

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                              • d.healeyD
                                d.healey @pcs800
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                                @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                                lot of vst3s live inside of a folder by the same name under the vst3 folder. You can do it either way

                                Are you referring to vst3 bundles, where the .vst3 extension is applied to a folder? Or are you referring to placing the .vst3 plugin into a subfolder?

                                Bundles on Windows are available only available with JUCE if you build using cmake instead of Projucer, but HISE doesn't support this... yet.

                                @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                                The folder where I know the samples are because I looked. It accepted that folder but still doesn't make any sound.

                                After doing that did you open the linkwindows file in a text editor to confirm the correct location had been written to the file?

                                On your development machine, are the samples in the project's Samples folder? And have you converted them to monoliths, .ch files?

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                                • pcs800P
                                  pcs800 @d.healey
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                                  @d-healey

                                  @d-healey said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                                  After doing that did you open the linkwindows file in a text editor to confirm the correct location had been written to the file?

                                  Yes I have

                                  @d-healey said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                                  On your development machine, are the samples in the project's Samples folder? And have you converted them to monoliths, .ch files?

                                  No, is that necessary?

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                                  • pcs800P
                                    pcs800 @d.healey
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                                    @d-healey The installer just installs wav files in the samples folder I have defined. Will that not work?

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                                    • d.healeyD
                                      d.healey @pcs800
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                                      @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                                      No, is that necessary?

                                      It's necessary to put the samples in the project's Samples folder - otherwise the sample maps will contain absolute paths.

                                      I don't know if it's necessary to convert them to monoliths, but you should probably do this as it will reduce disk usage.

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                                      • pcs800P
                                        pcs800 @d.healey
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                                        @d-healey
                                        Ok but that doesn't seem to be the issue here.
                                        Once I get the plugin onto another computer, it asks me where the sample folder is, which i point it out, and it accepts it. But it's silent.

                                        @d-healey said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                                        It's necessary to put the samples in the project's Samples folder - otherwise the sample maps will contain absolute paths

                                        Sample folder on the dev machine? So if i imported samples to the project from some other folder, like C:\some folder\samples. That somehow messes up the project? Do I need to put them in the project samples folder on the dev machine, and then re-import them to the sampler in the project?

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey @pcs800
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                                          @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                                          That somehow messes up the project?

                                          Yes, because in your sample maps you will have absolute paths to that folder.

                                          @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                                          Do I need to put them in the project samples folder on the dev machine

                                          Yes

                                          @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                                          and then re-import them to the sampler in the project?

                                          This isn't necessary. Once you've moved the samples to the Samples folder. Open the sample map xmls in a text editor and replace the absolute path part with {PROJECT_FOLDER} for each of the samples.

                                          This is explained in the docs here.

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                                          • LindonL
                                            Lindon @pcs800
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                                            @pcs800 said in Sample player plugin not making sound:

                                            @Lindon when it presented me with the message to either extract or browse for a folder which contains the samples, I chose to browse for the folder. The folder where I know the samples are because I looked. It accepted that folder but still doesn't make any sound. Could this be something related to the sample module or MIDI velocity settings Within hise?

                                            very very very unlikely.

                                            To sort of answer my own question, on the development machine, when I export to vst3, then I copy the vst3 to the windows vst3 folder, then bring the plug-in up in a daw, it works just fine

                                            ..and this will work fine if you have (as David suggests) absolute paths in the sample maps, but on any other machine (that does not have the absolute path) it wont work

                                            Meanwhile this doesn't answer the question I asked you:

                                            Is "Acoustica" the name you have used for Company in the Setting/User Settings panel?

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