Scriptnode Synthesizer (how to :)

ulrik

@hisefilo crashed here as well.

You have a strange connection here:

"saw_gain", you don't have any parameter with that name

hisefilo

@ulrik thanks for confirming! yes I know about the parameter! But I think is the "Allow Compilation". Disabled that and I'm able to run the standalone compiled. But I get no sound from a Faust Oscillator once compiled (I do with the factory oscillator).
Will continue investigating

hisefilo

Confirmed. No sound out from Faust Nodes on Scriptnode Synthesizer Module once compiled. (allow compilation for nodes disabled)

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hisefilo

@Christoph-Hart can you confirm this is the actual state of the Scriptnode Synth Module with Faust? Or it's just me pulling a boneheaded move?

hisefilo

@Christoph-Hart I finally found the bastard! Parameters makes Scriptnode synth to crash. Is this a simple fix???

Screenshot 2023-05-28 at 15.17.21.png

hisefilo

@Christoph-Hart any way to get this sorted? :folded_hands: :folded_hands: :folded_hands: :folded_hands: :folded_hands: :folded_hands: :folded_hands: :folded_hands:

Christoph Hart

@hisefilo can you upload a patch that demonstrates this?

hisefilo

@Christoph-Hart Sure.

Save this (or any other faust code) into [Project Folder]/DspNetworks/CodeLibrary/faust/

import("stdfaust.lib");

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
//
// Additive synthesizer, must be used with OSC message to program sound.
// It as 8 harmonics. Each have it's own volume envelop.
//
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
//
// OSC messages (see BELA console for precise adress)
// For each harmonics (%rang indicate harmonic number, starting at 0) :
// vol%rang	: General Volume (vol0 control the volume of the fundamental)
// A%rang : Attack
// D%rang : Decay
// S%rang : Sustain
// R%rang : Release
//
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

// GENERAL
midigate = button("gate");
midifreq = nentry("freq[unit:Hz]", 440, 20, 20000, 1);
midigain = nentry("gain", 0.5, 0, 10, 0.01);

// pitchwheel
bend = ba.semi2ratio(hslider("bend [midi:pitchwheel]",0,-2,2,0.01));

gFreq = midifreq * bend;

partiel(rang) = os.oscrs(gFreq*(rang+1))*volume
    with {
        // UI
        vol	= hslider("vol%rang", 1, 0, 1, 0.001);
     
        a = 0.01 * hslider("A%rang", 1, 0, 400, 0.001);
        d = 0.01 * hslider("D%rang", 1, 0, 400, 0.001);
        s = hslider("S%rang", 1, 0, 1, 0.001);
        r = 0.01 * hslider("R%rang", 1, 0, 800, 0.001);

        volume = ((en.adsr(a,d,s,r,midigate))*vol) : max (0) : min (1);
    };

process = par(i, 8, partiel(i)) :> / (8) <: _,_;

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Compile DspNetworks .dll
Compile a standalone app and run it (crash!)

I've tryied:
-Not allowing compilation on Dspnetwork once dll is already compiled, but parameters are not working
-Compiling .dlls on a ScriptFX and then load the same network on the ScriptNode Synth

hisefilo

@Christoph-Hart look at this analog beauty!!! Yep. faust analog synth!
Fingers crossed for parameter fix to start using this :folded_hands:

Screenshot 2023-05-31 at 11.50.02.png

Christoph Hart

@hisefilo Alright, I've digged into it. First of all: don't use the scriptnode synthesizer after you've compiled a node. Just like with FX: once you've compiled them you should use the Hardcoded module to wrap the C++ class directly without going through scriptnode.

Now the problem is that there is no hardcoded synthesizer (yet), but that's where the mysterious "Silent Synth" comes in: you can use it in conjunction with a PolyphonicHardcodedFX module and (if the exported network has the HasTail flag enabled that suggests that it's ringing out), it will render a silent voice that then goes through the FX where you can add the synthesizer signal.

So after exporting the DLL you need this signal chain:

Be aware that in order to kill the voices after they ring off you need to add a voice management node to the network that sends a reset message. The best option is to connect a voice_manager to a envelope's CV output, but since you're in faust land, you can just use the node with the awesome name silent_killer, which checks the buffer and just sends a note off signal when the buffer gets silent (there's a slight CPU overhead, but it's negligible next to your sine wave oscillator madness).

Edit: oh and you need to pull the latest HISE build, I've fixed an issue in the silent killer node where it didn't generate the correct polyphonic version.

ustk

@Christoph-Hart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAWJdXJvngU

resonant

@Christoph-Hart

Too many parameters are not supported in custom compiled dll nodes, right?

All custom nodes with more than 15 parameters crash here.

hisefilo

@Christoph-Hart Well. just 3 words! We Love You!!!!!!!!!!

You've just opened the pandora's box. I was toying around with the Polyphonic Hardcoded Module but never on the silent synth (dumb of me)

One important note: the silent_killer thing will only work if you have used the convention "gate" label for the Faust trigger. AHDSR with GT connected to a voice_killer worked for me as far as I'm not using that convention.

Also, Gain chain does not affect the synth (as far as it's placed on the FXs chain I guess). Is this ok? I need to do gain modulation directly on Faust code or adding extra nodes in Scriptnode. LFOs ADSRs, etc

@resonant I haven't reached the 15 parameters mark yet. but I will.

resonant

@hisefilo said in Scriptnode Synthesizer (how to :):

@resonant I haven't reached the 15 parameters mark yet. but I will.

This issue happens on effect plugins for me. But 15 or 16 is a low amount for advanced projects, it should be at least 32.

Christoph Hart

@resonant I'm working on big projects and never hit that limitation. Try modularizing your effects or use a slider pack if you want to control a parameter set that is somehow connected (eg. filter bank).

If you can't modularize for some reason you can raise the hardcoded limit here:

https://github.com/christophhart/HISE/blob/2d88ad47af71047dede7769b9794f0707aed83d4/hi_dsp_library/node_api/nodes/OpaqueNode.h#L102

hisefilo

@Christoph-Hart I'm really stuck trying to implement sustain on Scriptnode Synthesizer and Faust.
Is there any tip or advice? I get hanging notes if I use the silent_killer and I get no sustain if I use an AHDRS.... any clue??

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declare options "[midi:on][nvoices:128]";
import("stdfaust.lib");
f = hslider("freq",300,50,2000,0.01);
bend = ba.semi2ratio(hslider("bend[midi:pitchwheel]",0,-2,2,0.01)) : si.polySmooth(gate,0.999,1);
gain = hslider("gain",0.5,0,1,0.01);
s = hslider("sustain[midi:ctrl 64]",0,0,1,1);
cutoff = hslider("cutoff[midi:ctrl 1]",1000,50,4000,0.01) : si.smoo;
t = button("gate");
freq = f*bend; 
gate = t+s : min(1);
envelope = en.adsr(0.01,0.01,0.8,0.1,gate)*gain;
process = os.sawtooth(freq)*envelope : fi.lowpass(3,cutoff) <:_,_;
effect = dm.zita_light;

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