Filter ADSR?
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@Straticah might be better control like this:
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@lalalandsynth i am not that deep into hardware that is outside of eurorack but do oberheim synths or prophets use a volume envelope after the filter envelope?
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@Lindon this one would mix the unfiltered sound with the filtered tho which we dont want or am i missing something? :)
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@Straticah its just your envelope modulated filter - but passing the envelope signal through a scaling function so you can have the envelope apply (start from) a different freq value...
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@Straticah I like what you're doing, interesting!
You can also have an envelope per voice as well, at least in the usual Hise (not script node) , I'm not so familiar with script node yet, but I guess you can accomplish that there as well. -
@Straticah Yes, all synths would have a VCA.
Like this ... also with the capability to have the envelope offset by the cutoff point ( although that is not always the case) and be able to invert the envelope.
I would be interested in non poly behaviour as a lot of early mono synths need that behaviour.HiseSnippet 2081.3oc6Z0DaabbEdVRMzhR1INs0H4VYat3.jJHJ6FWfdfqjnXrPLkXMUkSOoNZ2gjCztyrc2YkDSQygjbHE4PPNDT3a8VAxI2i8TIPAJPARALpOFfB2Ks.Es.NG6ozY1eHmkbIEICohkgkALz76668+adZq4xLvddLWfV98Z6fAZWFVuMk2ZyVHBErcYf1K.qh73X2BgSsQaGjmG1Dnok8MkSnkeAPvOOozFHKD0.2aJ.XeFw.eGhMg2a1Z5uEwxpBxDuGwVY22TeaCFcSlEyWfmrvUANHiiPMw6fjaKCDnkaKSBm4Vmi3XOf1BavLaWuE6DZ392m3QNzBKGTDTWbQgSWgYYJQrbVvlsHVl0h4aO.PCVqmTHanT36.qRLIcmumz3pAKTn2ITkGZYRBurIfWQU3spB7RARZJPZgPH8Rv5FtDGduUj3YY31TgxoARH1UgR3dAZcfaxDafxWwFcDthqXP2Cb82X0Ue8Bh+609wM7oFbBiVfQ2gww6Ru9qszubo7K8qVpP+K0nQpqIIiKyxB6l5xRMs6nN30o91Ghce8BGir7wc2nf8SJSgCWlppxMB4ZkMxnaSI7ccvzgYH.hDUhe6mtcYDGIUDQyI1mC1kSjPPqL9XgUcnZIOrL16HNyQXWOfNSXsvL8sP7jlPR+lnEDxfD5Moxg5Q3sU8qlY1UiKDeIXMB2nU5XLSJXTHolGXLxa7JvsZz.av6AvEfUd64iqmJ4uVH4WFdOzw3fvhAD+ZAiavbsK7lXJ1UJ6JNh.iObbCL5L1AF20fKfvdtHpmCyCWT8l6as0TWqLl6SU2dgNgSkXWR1qhf8T12h5wStl5j0PzDzVLNwMUkbZugOtzVTjPITGK3Fyc8LDLqT1oZpWy2xCeOhIuUQ0C1a50Tm91HWSgdwHggX1Qkin3TliH2Sc4Ht.DtIQZr7wXrNw1wBuE8XrkHlZ.F+VhfnMP9V73YS5NUkQYNsXTRBE8cwbWRyl3D1OoxPqy4hBIRdVKLxqmK1G9H86PnXjqPNgmRYQwINkdp5qWAFB2BxX.Et3llH6yzoIRSc9BvZLq1gUdInqD.ubvTg1tEBWoPk2tXpkp8cgoUVjRkPvYjonRcN6f4mvbOJfgh9cQrtPj6zE4G3E.wCZbZQv5VVrS1jY6PhT4BNHXtdLprFgvcfEpBJEastMyWPOMnVFAQuMxaODwRts8wtdAWxkfqth3eB6icB7.gUPFBdscMjHoqvPSVOmPqhcWwnq1cXPTU3Jus3DmPMP.yaaKY9f2SjUottPcpbjvhMij.WFts29xUMPVf8k0kJwLPdmgRr.nFHtVBZ519fSv7hfghbOGKQ1doFqFxU7jFQY3xpIynhw74teyeyWIwoJWjDywzOVT0i9NRZdFRtIQ5DSInBm9hwb5A1jSEAeSPtqFPNgc6Jm1PTFi6PoVO9TkhwIg0xzmlISeZlWDtiushTLR4DZeA5ay4fAQ0i1yhvvH8.P8SjQu1C41DyCHh5DQ09SwANjdIGFI621LVv2TJY6hG474BR6ljHi+cJEuC+NUXboQa7HgWTUBMhMUpACcZey8jR04Xm5j2Iw9peD9jPkYhDpkkNmgWv.W859blsHZjYW+hDtCAbPB6ikE1Gt3UZNJCwyzzHipoQRgQ1QKL9YcFTXHX7jBie68u+enz.BiNMev0zCslBTBmgrPAG4FKkh9GqOV33m+sK+nRgu7utMiwaQnM6GL2T+Ln+rPNbY3cwdX9PrL.JwltDD0xzafHE3nZ8VIb0IHtDbjQsGcrgYhSOD5XiR5aF6iLZGdIeHJ98z3tKTlHRJfZugunvkPu4DyH4HpI9TI5+JwOaYeH1T3FDbbonHo0e9I1p6C+SimUm9NU+KAVcKFUcppF+AK.5bn9jaxOwwgtRDwuCVX4.F3x.ye1OG71h3PSr+1rfzWR7FICT69ncG2yCAedXceOdhvdu2mt4GY8u9hyCgddX7y0F3hNGM51z283ABz83RyHD7jRCGAKC68T2ACzN+ouLiGOsX78d3W23opw8WLLtewmgB7mCNkU58LYf+YpE3yC7ewHv++7ge+u3+8t+6uoB724yt0M96+9mG3+o4.+gkGmHp+U51X.4RSaGZRivCsDcuiajLP8xvJt3egOlZzdxd1343anGMPdxe7qOPVBV02hSbrZOXfzyar.gqapFT8y9x+V0C6zOLlhVzopcAIZSlryJyq1jkMgOfz9qOefFDKIlVQtzT6CzWkDUBuyd+5DV6PtQqluo9fwwej9Xol0ee6+ZTbrdNdCz0iwtuI523FOpTefoym+4u53AFvq9kOL.LYg+jItBh0RoeIqoOY15CquQyuLYmYqhz+GuyGLM4wtp9jlGQsArmqovxCC+aNalhNOQ+J61w0Yc+Jy979UdAqekQOxahMDRIx8yU8W.T8esKvXn504zKSVDV1s88v7AioMdcwn++Ddo2HaU9HjpaJraZz.L6YptG828meqa8qW+wkl51vGVQ4.X+UfweYIEPA+snOXawXW97jW9dOvs0m7e+OSOunToNXnwQ.avXGYiB9a3Om+rEqRN8o6uGkWFtqmwZEB9nTJ7MyWkxcY9bQXtpHw61kUfuiuccQxAi3uDBu39QFMd03zF0wTyUiKYOZwhxwZQKVLdwyEZXiLbYGD8lcoU6hAyH3aZvGicdXU43BEAGG0kU4GvAvlXRNvvP9k27CJB.oel0lhybio3L2bJNyObJNyaLEm4VSwY9Qi7Lxu4vnD6RadwD01J7IeZwk.KL+A+ePurhTG
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@lalalandsynth @Lindon good job this sound pretty good already and gives the character i am looking for, lets see if someone can solve the per voice LFOd pitch tuning
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@Straticah Why do you have the wet/dry path ?
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@lalalandsynth thats from the first quick sketch i made to separate the envelope patch from the filtered one, its the dry wet preset in scriptnode, didnt know of a faster way :D
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@Straticah I see, it makes more sense to me like this.
This is a regular signal path , ending at the vca.
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@lalalandsynth isee, is there a way to link both release values to not cut the first envelope?
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@Straticah On a typical vintage synth there would be 2 typical scenarios.
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One envelope - you can select if its for both filter and vca and if you would want the volume to be unaffected you would set the "volume/vca" to gate mode.
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2 Envelopes , one for VCA and one for filter , which would give you what you have now.
So to have the second envelope no affect the first one , you would just not use a second one and use the first one for both OR, have a GATE setting where the VCA is on/off and the filter envelope takes care of things ,BUT then when you let go of the key there is no release.
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