Gain Value Curve

[UrsBollhalder]

How can I counteract the standard value curve of the gain knob.
I am sending values (from a panel) to 2 simple gains - one for the wet and one for the dry signal.

The idea is that as the panel-value increases, there is a smooth/linear crossfade between the 2 simple gains. But the dB curve is logarithmic I suppose and my values go linear.

Probably ridiculously easy for you guys but new territory for me... Thx for your help! U

[Lindon]

@UrsBollhalder

Math.log10(someValue)

[UrsBollhalder]

@Lindon said in Gain Value Curve:

@UrsBollhalder

Math.log10(someValue)

Thanks Lindon... I was on the right track... but does the value have to be between 1 and 0?? Mine are ranging in between 100 and 0...

[Lindon]

@UrsBollhalder so scale them...

[d.healey]

Are you trying to crossfade two samplers/synths?

[orange]

If you are trying to make a Dry / Wet knob, this will work.

In this example, Engine.getDecibelsForGainFactor method is used by a knob with normalized percentage scale mode

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[UrsBollhalder]

@d-healey said in Gain Value Curve:

Are you trying to crossfade two samplers/synths?

No... I am routing the signal to a bus (3-4) and depending on the value, the signal should go 100% through the convolution or 0% convo and just dry... So I set up the chain in the fxsection and have 2 simple gains controlling the wet/dry. One is channel 1/2 (dry) and the other 3/4 is for the convolution.

simple gain1 --- dry -- channels 1-2
simple gain2 --- wet -- channels 3/4

So when the value (panel data value, event.dragY) linearly goes from 0 to 100, the volume crossfade between simple gain1 and 2 should do the same...

[ustk]

@UrsBollhalder Then you should go the @orange way. Engine.getDecibelsForGainFactor is what you need. But a linear gain factor is a 0-1 value, not 0-100...

so one is doing => Engine.getDecibelsForGainFactor(value)
and the other => Engine.getDecibelsForGainFactor(1 - value)

[UrsBollhalder]

@ustk said in Gain Value Curve:

@UrsBollhalder Then you should go the @orange way. Engine.getDecibelsForGainFactor is what you need. But a linear gain factor is a 0-1 value, not 0-100...

so one is doing => Engine.getDecibelsForGainFactor(value)
and the other => Engine.getDecibelsForGainFactor(1 - value)

Thanks a lot for the help guys. Appreciate it!!

It's getting a bit messy here with different kinds of values that should then go into fx modulation and stuff. But I think it's more or less working now! The fades are still a bit uneven... Thanks guys...

[ustk]

@UrsBollhalder It is not a panel but it's the same thing since the slider uses a 0-1 linear value:

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[ustk]

@UrsBollhalder And this example is the same thing except it uses twice the same sine generator, so you can hear the fade is even as it should be...

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[UrsBollhalder]

@ustk said in Gain Value Curve:

@UrsBollhalder It is not a panel but it's the same thing since the slider uses a 0-1 linear value:

Yeah... That's how I set it up now... right?
Still, it sounds a bit jumpy... But the convolution fx is a tough one to control level-wise... So maybe it's also there that I need to solve that problem.

inline function onPanel1Control(component, value)
{
	WetGain0.setAttribute(WetGain0.Gain, Engine.getDecibelsForGainFactor(param3/100));
        DryGain0.setAttribute(DryGain0.Gain, Engine.getDecibelsForGainFactor(1-(param3/100)));
}

Content.getComponent("Panel1").setControlCallback(onPanel1Control);

[ustk]

@UrsBollhalder That's exactly it. Effectively you have to manage the gain for each convolution file since the difference in level certainly comes from it...