Rompler with external sound bank



  • I'm new to Hise so sorry if the question is silly, but is it possible to create a rompler where the user can load the sounds from the UI?

    I'd like to create an empty rompler where the user will be able to put its sound files anywhere on his computer. When he chose to load a sound from the UI, he'll get the sound with its custom UI loaded. Just like Kontakt and Halion.

    Is it possible to create something like this in Hise Sampler?



  • @MisterCluster Yes, You can make sample based instruments like Kontakt,Samletank,Halion etc with Hise.
    Yes, user can load sounds from UI. User can load two types of things from UI.

    • Presets

    • Samplemaps (Predefined by You not end users)

    HISE stands for Hart Instruments Sampler Editor. It was specifically built to create sample based Instruments.
    https://docs.hise.audio/introduction/tour/index.html#the-sampler-workspace

    Cheers !!
    Rudra



  • No, the samples that the user loads are predefined by you before the plugin is compiled.



  • @d-healey Hmm...



  • OK lets be clear...

    @MisterCluster said in Rompler with external sound bank:

    I'm new to Hise so sorry if the question is silly, but is it possible to create a rompler where the user can load the sounds from the UI?

    Yes, the user can load any sound you ship with the product - sounds are loaded using a thing called a sample map - these get compiled into the product when you release it. The sounds themselves are shipped separately(by you) and the user gets to decide where on their computer they want to store these...

    I'd like to create an empty rompler where the user will be able to put its sound files anywhere on his computer. When he chose to load a sound from the UI, he'll get the sound with its custom UI loaded. Just like Kontakt and Halion.

    If you mean you would like to build an empty ROMpler where the user can drop any of their own sounds onto it and play those, then no - HISE isnt designed to do that - it's an environment for building sample based virtual instruments.

    Is it possible to create something like this in Hise Sampler?



  • Ah I see, if the sounds have to be predefined in the rompler before being loaded, then it won't work because I don't know what type of sounds with their custom UI I'll do in the future.

    I had hopes that it could be possible using some kind of expansion system.

    Then I think Hise is in need of a player, I'm sure it would bring more people in if you could just create the instruments and the end-users would just load them in the player.



  • @MisterCluster

    if you could just create the instruments and the end-users would just load them in the player.

    You'd only need one player and HISE would vanish in a puff of self created obsolescence.



  • @MisterCluster said in Rompler with external sound bank:

    Ah I see, if the sounds have to be predefined in the rompler before being loaded, then it won't work because I don't know what type of sounds with their custom UI I'll do in the future.

    I had hopes that it could be possible using some kind of expansion system.

    Hise includes an expansion system. You can create a product - say a two voice instrument with a range of filters and effects - and ship it with (say) a few hundred "sounds". If you have designed it correctly then you can later ship the user a set of extensions - each including a number of sounds and presets.

    You can even ship additional code and images (to reskin your product) with these extensions.



  • @d-healey said in Rompler with external sound bank:

    @MisterCluster

    if you could just create the instruments and the end-users would just load them in the player.

    You'd only need one player and HISE would vanish in a puff of self created obsolescence.

    Why? I genuinely don't understand, if it's good for Kontakt, why it wouldn't be good for Hise?



  • @Lindon said in Rompler with external sound bank:

    @MisterCluster said in Rompler with external sound bank:

    Ah I see, if the sounds have to be predefined in the rompler before being loaded, then it won't work because I don't know what type of sounds with their custom UI I'll do in the future.

    I had hopes that it could be possible using some kind of expansion system.

    Hise includes an expansion system. You can create a product - say a two voice instrument with a range of filters and effects - and ship it with (say) a few hundred "sounds". If you have designed it correctly then you can later ship the user a set of extensions - each including a number of sounds and presets.

    You can even ship additional code and images (to reskin your product) with these extensions.

    So if I follow you correctly the expansions can be presets + custom UI but not samples + custom UI.

    By the way, thank you guys for taking the time to answer my questions!



  • @MisterCluster

    Why? I genuinely don't understand, if it's good for Kontakt, why it wouldn't be good for Hise?

    Kontakt is an end user application, HISE is a tool for developing plugins.



  • @MisterCluster said in Rompler with external sound bank:

    So if I follow you correctly the expansions can be presets + custom UI but not samples + custom UI.

    Yes it can contain samples. It's essentially a mini HISE project. But you still have to predefine the samples. There is no way (as far as I'm aware) to make a HISE plugin that the user can just drop any samples into.



  • @d-healey said in Rompler with external sound bank:

    @MisterCluster said in Rompler with external sound bank:

    So if I follow you correctly the expansions can be presets + custom UI but not samples + custom UI.

    Yes it can contain samples. It's essentially a mini HISE project. But you still have to predefine the samples. There is no way (as far as I'm aware) to make a HISE plugin that the user can just drop any samples into.

    I thought it was possible because Hexeract allows the user to import samples and it's based on Hise.

    Is there a file format that the end-user can load in the Hise sampler made plugin that allows the importation of both samples+custom UI "instruments"?

    Again, I'm sorry if my question sounds silly, I've gone through the tutorials on the website and not much else.

    The expansion system really confuses me! 😬



  • @MisterCluster said in Rompler with external sound bank:

    I thought it was possible because Hexeract allows the user to import samples and it's based on Hise.

    Does it allow the user to load in an entire sample set or just individual samples?

    It is possible to load individual sounds in via the Audio File Player module.



  • @d-healey If I remember well, you can load one-shot samples in each layer. So no multi as far as I know. I could be wrong though.



  • @MisterCluster I would assume it is using a single audio file player for each layer then


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