Poly filter in Container doesn't do anything

d.healey

A polyphonic filter doesn't seem to have any effect when applied as a Container level effect.

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Christoph Hart

Containers do not render voices so it makes no sense adding a polyphonic FX there. I'll remove it from the list of Container FX...

d.healey

Ah ok that makes sense, so what would be the best way to filter multiple samplers? Just adding a filter to each sampler?

Christoph Hart

If you want polyphonic filter behavior (= modulated by envelopes / velocity), then yes. Otherwise you can use the Monophonic Filter on the Container.

d.healey

That might work!

Poly filter in Container doesn't do anything

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