Loud click artifact when using ReleaseStart with looping enabled
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I'm working on my first HISE library and have encountered a weird consistent issue, where there is a loud click artifact during sample playback whenever I use looping and ReleaseStart on the same sample.
The click only happens when I have both looping and ReleaseStart set.
Scenarios:- Loop ON + ReleaseStart SET, note held: Sample loops cleanly with no click at
the loop transition. However, after the loop restarts, a loud click appears at
exactly (I think) the duration it would take to play from the ReleaseStart position
to SampleEnd - Loop ON + ReleaseStart SET, note released: Transition from loop to release
offset is clean. A loud click occurs the moment SampleEnd is reached. - Loop ON - ReleaseStart 0: Sample just loops and slowly fades out based on DefaultEnvelope Release time
- Loop OFF + ReleaseStart SET: No issues, even with envelope release time set to max. Playback reaches sample end with no click
This behaviour occured both on the standalone version and the latest stable built from source version.
My sample was exported with a 10ms linear fadeout, and even before that I knew it was at least -80dB at SampleEnd.Hise: 4.9.2
OS: Windows 11HISE Snippet
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Audio file used in sample map
Burg_Sus_D4_0_127_dyn3.wav - Loop ON + ReleaseStart SET, note held: Sample loops cleanly with no click at
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@observantsound Oh and setting a sample gain fade out in the sample editor also doesn't help...
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@observantsound What settings are you using for the release start?
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@observantsound I can check in 2 hours.
Also realised I did the snippet format wrong.
How is it supposed to be? -
@observantsound Just remove the square brackets from each end.
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@David-Healey Ok now I had time to check again.
I just rebuilt it on my MacBook with the snippet and the downloaded sample on Hise standalone. Single sampler, single sample, loop region and ReleaseStart outside of the loop region towards the end of the sample.Tried changing all ReleaseStart settings, but none have an effect.
Release Fade Time 0-10000
Fade Gama 0-1
Gain Matching: All three modes
Peak Smoothing 0-1
UseAscendingZeroCrossing: Yes No.I still consistently get a click/popping sound.
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I can't edit the post for some reason.
Here's the correct snippet
HiseSnippet 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@observantsound Make a new project, add your sample to the project's Samples folder, load your snippet. Fix the errors then post the snippet again.
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@David-Healey What errors do you mean?
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@David-Healey That script processor was turned off so I thought it doesnt matter.
But just to be super safe I tried to recreate the issue in a new xml preset.
One 1 sampler on a new sample map, with no script.The weird thing is that for one sample map I managed to set it up without a click, but I wasnt able to recreate it again the 2nd time.
Uploaded my test sample maps, both using the same sample.
This one clicks: test 2.xml
This one doesnt click: Test.xmlHiseSnippet 907.3oc6W0raabCDlqkYpcQRQSSOzSA5bOoUQVR4jkksbhQsRVn0IH2Bn2kRhH6RtfjqcTeBxqQdC5iPdGx8f7H32f1gb0ObUUbTDP9AocOoYFNje7aFNyn.oHhpTBIx6GOaRFE4cSb3Dtd7giILN5jiPd2AOflPIJZnlH0mnT4TT2IYDkhFi77p7.yB81caj86p86RRH7H5BUHzSErH5orTldg1fN+AKI4XRL8LVpypaz4jHA+PQhHG.UEbMTFI5EjQzGQLKaKL5gD0Xj2uia2rVyXJo4v5w2Ohr2vF08a257X+Fwm2lFcd6V60JtcSRSj2M5EyzBIbAzTExa6th3IgiEWxKNfmxTrySnFAeTHbxEpOVjDathFsnCGyRhClwVJDxCGrf6pTvc+JtOKlMW+BN7msFptvCWBzaqqCd9tvq1ZCOjC51t.c.HDw4IDcYjYheSMvD7RH6DtlxUL8D236WU3dab.SGMd03cqUfWHP84FuSC92B2a3PZjdAX2Fe7y9xFouaAT9EbnVRIoL9nPRZVBUZwyt3YRen2uu+0uace+ls1ueCjzDAINj8mNK6Mc5lCzkrr1+pi8nNHUjyKcVSA9.ZFkngnuiO6zYvfGHE4YK60U6ayUNSB0O.lv0vi4Tf10t2wCkBkZHbcr6kx0TPtbjgqVnY.8BpTUV2ixSgPOmSS.mwddfpmXKZpYQ8IZI6ktq9TwkAPHnG+BfbxnOVFCgEG6VTT6LhMc.J5Yk8WRt9Rx2aI4FKIu2RxMWRt0B4BBuOIyj3rCFRW0UqCYrkSf+gObBrakTXaBH.w3rxtrQyOhBMtY4yCFV.4TpdE0guw+WG1B2JqGbWAC54fwcmgwPlI5LK+bZw2inCI4I54ZcAYeAWjMVvYQkeo.Y9iF4lbe09q79bfVCOTK6qcti4pd0a6bJiSIxxE.9jnB+0mJttv0ugKfaUSwupeez9rx+4aedcT2OMs4YU6XveiGmuI1VOupo87WKnNPjqg1tyZ8gg9igvLAQT2tjaY57VHWyHa.THkGaE9a3apQ+YsTMF8mYDEMaqf61zeeDQS.LQ4lNG1oBSfl0ItozJXxCCjf1beQPYJIRJdNLUjVJrXcGqF.kb6+oYWbeibUezEjj7RSdkBsqddTT4s5e4X8M0w6soN1XScbuM0wlapis1TGa+wczLMwA4ZQZQwTDpePuhDPudyS.qf9G7KDCrB -
@observantsound The keyranges and loop and release positions are different between those.
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@David-Healey Well that shouldn't really matter...
But this time I've matched ReleaseStart, LoopStart and LoopEnd between the two sample maps.Only when I started changing LowKey and HighKey to be to full range like on Test2.xml (the clicking one), then the first sample map started clicking as well.
So even though I'm consistently only playing D4 in all my tests, changing the Low and High key on the mapping introduces a clicking artifact??Also wasnt sure if the Release was set to max on the snippet before.
HiseSnippet 1007.3oc6W0sbiSCEVtoZmVlEF1c1K3JlbMLCSb1zjzqZZRSWJzrMSbovc6nXqjnAaIirbVBOA73vi.uC7hz2.3HY6X4PnaHCrKCfuHSNGoy474y+drT3SSRDRjy6c6pXJx4wXuUb0hAKHLN5pKPNOBqnIJT+UwjjDZ.xwo1Kzm4b7gHyy8m0mDR39zRVHzcBlO8ZVDSUxcbuujEFdIIfdKKx51s5ckufOPDJRAbTC2.ES7+Vxb5KI5qc.F84jjEHmOA2sci1ATR6YMCN0mbxrVMc61YZfaqfoco9S614jNAcaSZCndX.SIjdJBfdjyg8EAq7VHdMOy.2wRXSCoZBWjGX4L1WJBCzuhZtnAKXgAiKbPIHjCdbo6pVl65Y3Qr.1Z9ktsOzbP8RIrcfNG7Pvy0FdM1Y3grP2gYnC.gHHMjnphLc7K+.lfWAYWwUTdBSsxN99NEtOAOlo7Wrc7dvVvKDn96Fu4A+2GOb1LpupDrGhu7ad6Fo+3Ln7TrmRRIQL9bORTbHUZvyw3Bp+Bpei2452wRZnfD3w9Aqq8y85mBtKYUt+TOioNORjxqXqbfOgFSIJH5aIyQ8lL4ERQZ7lRc+YlbkakP+CvSXevMbJ31U1uiCjhjjYvqiQWIUTSpbt1WUd4IzkTYRUduLMBB8bNMDDF63.r9pDpNTy7GQTR12ae6qEudLDBFxWBNmX5Mx.HrXctAEMtkXRGFha08yV+b5.3mk27cwwwmtlog9K9TKZ3mY1zYpzcqprTEYprzD6fJatSpbSTlahsqxmuWpbSTlahLU1JWkv.DC8IaP2dC5NkzYIeiHw5hniLS.q2DpdqVLezebwr8TEPMiIPRh0M6ylu1DYbrq3WmXZ.j0XqulrjNSHirzzVFS8n+eLkAt01M3tEOniEFOt.idLc.qn7Me1zEzYjzP0Zt1fbjfKhWH3L+pMRfFCymaW6e+Ya884bkB5iUx4Y8lPCojjxNg+3uz6ZFmRjU6O9mxU3t6thGJb8Q3L3VWOan9+N1tn1+42t3gbceP9tE0AqKU+CON+XroEec81Kuy6jna4NPvURQXwhZOIqOrE22HHgUMxGXUladEzGRpptkRoNg8UlVsuiWjPnVTccNVu7lZ2QBSoOTl+d2UAMQjpfEzJVRBCHyC1dzmZuO0AZvmQ2PSqgfGkGXH9U3I+P2hkuzG5VbHxuPUfGL++WPTD.STt1uY99gPXstP62wDXGUMjfk.dqfxHhuT7J+rXjFqGY3.nja952iwizz0cQK2LbDAYLux2upp9cB1beE746qfs1WAOYeEr89JXm8UvtuYA0EzmmpDQYyUPnQiGlk.5LbcBXMzuQ3GQ9A -
@observantsound It's probably something to do with how the stretching algorithm works. I also noticed your sample is 44.1kHz, 48 might produce better results.
