Sending Midi Out from Sliders (Instrument Plugin)

[bendurso]

I'm trying to send midi out from sliders and I tried using inside the slider callback:

Synth.addController(int channel, int number, int value, int timeStampSamples)
Synth.sendController(int number, int value)

And then.. using Message.sendToMidiOut() inside onController
The onController doesnt receive the midi income from the sendController or addController.

I have enabled "Enable Midi Out" in project settings..

and nothing..

Snippet:

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[David Healey]

@bendurso From what I recall the sendToMidi out needs to be in a separate MIDI processor.

@ulrik Is the expert here :)

[bendurso]

@David-Healey Oh yeah, it works in a MIDI processor outside the main container.

Do you think there could be any issues including it inside the macro modulation source? It works, but I’m not sure if it might cause problems with other things.

Or would be safer creating an empty container?

[David Healey]

@bendurso Generally it's a good idea to put all realtime stuff outside of the Interface script.

[bendurso]

@David-Healey

Great, thanks.

Now the onController actually receives the MIDI input, but Message.sendToMidiOut() doesn’t send any MIDI output.

[David Healey]

@bendurso Are you compiling as a VSTi?

[bendurso]

@David-Healey yeah :)

[David Healey]

@bendurso A lot of info here that might help

https://forum.hise.audio/topic/13986/hise-midi-fx

And here

https://forum.hise.audio/topic/12685/midi-out-plugin-is-not-sending-any-midi

[bendurso]

@David-Healey

Thanks, I had already found those posts.

However, I still haven’t found a solution. The console output confirms that the message contains a MIDI controller number and value, but sendToMidiOut() doesn’t seem to be sending anything. I’m checking with MIDI monitor, and it isn’t receiving any data.

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[David Healey]

@bendurso Which DAW are you testing in?

[bendurso]

@David-Healey I checked with the standalone and ableton

[David Healey]

@bendurso Do other MIDI plugins work in Ableton?

[bendurso]

@David-Healey I actually don't have another plugin with midi out to test hehe. But the standalone also should send midi out

[David Healey]

@bendurso said in Sending Midi Out from Sliders (Instrument Plugin):

But the standalone also should send midi out

Should it?

[bendurso]

@David-Healey Well I think

https://docs.hise.audio/scripting/scripting-api/message/index.html#sendtomidiout

Docs:
sendToMidiOut
This will forward the message to the MIDI out of the plugin. Edit on GitHub

Message.sendToMidiOut()

[David Healey]

@bendurso Try the test snippet that ulrik posted

Try it in Reaper.

[bendurso]

@David-Healey Well, I tried this snippet using just the keyboard: https://forum.hise.audio/topic/6575/still-problems-with-message-sendtomidiout/28

It doesn’t work in Reaper. The idea is to transform the artificial notes into real MIDI notes so they can be recorded in the DAW.

This is the simplified snippet I’m trying to achieve: (I'm exporting as Instrument Plugin).

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[bendurso]

@bendurso Oh, the problem might be that HISE clears all MIDI messages on the midi out if the plugin is not a MIDI FX?

https://github.com/christophhart/HISE/blob/develop/hi_core/hi_core/MainController.cpp#L1641

[David Healey]

@bendurso Me and Ulrik were testing with it as a VSTi

[bendurso]

@David-Healey Oh.. on reaper it works if you select Record output midi, instead of input midi..