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    • ustkU
      ustk @d.healey
      last edited by

      @d-healey I was right on it ☺

      I'll check more deeply tomorrow, but for now I don't see where knowing if it's DAW or not can allow to block a knob from being recalled. Unless using a trickery to save the prev value on preCB and restore on postCB... A bit dirty but why not...

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @ustk
        last edited by

        @ustk Yeah if I remember correctly in the preload callback you check if it's an internal load, if it's not then you store the value of the control in a variable.

        Then in the post callback you again do the check but this time you load the value from the variable.

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        • ustkU
          ustk
          last edited by ustk

          Can we simulate a DAW session loading within Hise to test isInternalPresetLoad()?
          I thought yes, but I've probably hallucinated...
          Compiling and codesigning for this kind of test can be cumbersome 😬

          Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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          • ustkU
            ustk
            last edited by

            What ever I try, saveInPreset enabled/disabled, use or don't use isInternalPresetLoad, I can't get this to work.
            It either make the component to persist on preset load but not on DAW init, or the opposite, or nothing...

            I need to make the components persistent for both cases, preset load AND DAW recall.

            my base structure is:

            // will hold some parameters that need to be protected when a preset is loaded or the DAW loads the session
            const var protectedControls 		= [oversamplingBtn, oversamplingKnb];
            const var protectedControlStates 	= [];
            
            
            //! Pre load CB
            uph.setPreCallback(function(presetFile)
            {
            	// Protect the controls we don't want to see changing during user preset load AND DAW session load
            	if (this.isInternalPresetLoad())
            	{
            		for (i=0; i<protectedControls.length; i++)
            			protectedControlStates[i] = protectedControls[i].getValue();
            	}
            });
            
            
            //! Post load CB
            uph.setPostCallback(function(presetFile)
            {
            	// Protect the controls we don't want to see changing during user preset load AND DAW session load
            	if (this.isInternalPresetLoad())
            	{
            		for (i=0; i<protectedControls.length; i++)
            		{
            			if (isDefined(protectedControlStates[i]))
            			{
            				protectedControls[i].setValue(protectedControlStates[i]);
            				protectedControls[i].changed();
            			}
            		}
            	}
            });
            

            I also tried to "pre-save" the component values in protectedControlStates from their respective CBs.

            If anyone has a clue or even better, a snippet, that would be amazing ☺

            Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey @ustk
              last edited by

              @ustk I'll try and make a snippet this evening if I have some time.

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              • ustkU
                ustk @d.healey
                last edited by

                @d-healey Lovely 😍

                Hise made me an F5 dude, browser just suffers...

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey @ustk
                  last edited by

                  @ustk Here ya go

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                  • ustkU
                    ustk @d.healey
                    last edited by

                    @d-healey Thanks Dave! I thought this was it. It holds for DAW session recall but not for preset change strangely, despite it works in Hise. Tried with ProTools and Live

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @ustk
                      last edited by d.healey

                      @ustk Working for me. Have you set a default preset?

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                      Does Live use VST3?

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                      • ustkU
                        ustk @d.healey
                        last edited by ustk

                        @d-healey In fact the logic is not hard, it should never change the parameters, whether it’s a preset change or DAW session load.
                        So since in both cases the pre and post CB are called, it should always protect the parameters. But it’s not happening for some reasons…

                        Have you tried to build and test with a DAW?

                        Oh you tried already…
                        Yes I have set a default preset

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                        • ustkU
                          ustk @d.healey
                          last edited by

                          @d-healey said in saveInPreset vs custom prefFile vs what?:

                          Does Live use VST3?

                          Yes, and I tried with AU too
                          I'm building again in case I've made a mistake

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                          • d.healeyD
                            d.healey @ustk
                            last edited by d.healey

                            @ustk said in saveInPreset vs custom prefFile vs what?:

                            Yes I have set a default preset

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                            • ustkU
                              ustk @d.healey
                              last edited by

                              @d-healey Oh what what what?
                              Seems not to be an ideal behaviour though...

                              Starting again and report ☺

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                              • ustkU
                                ustk @ustk
                                last edited by

                                @ustk Alright so after removing the initial preset I still have the same behaviour (protected with presets but not with DAW load)

                                I'll try again tomorrow with a fresh mind... Thanks, Dave!

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                                • ChazroxC
                                  Chazrox @ustk
                                  last edited by Chazrox

                                  @ustk I gave it a try but I just want to make sure I understand what you're trying to do. You want the knobValue to remain the same despite userPreset load and/or DAW loading?

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                                  • d.healeyD
                                    d.healey @Chazrox
                                    last edited by

                                    @Chazrox yes

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                                    • ChazroxC
                                      Chazrox @d.healey
                                      last edited by

                                      @d-healey should the knobValue be static value? ie. ALWAYS = 1? or should it always = last saved state? ie, user changes and saves the value as .5 in one preset, should that load as .5 on all presets and next plugin launch....or go back to 1?

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                                      • ChazroxC
                                        Chazrox @ustk
                                        last edited by Chazrox

                                        @ustk @d-healey What about setting Knob1 "defaultValue" on value changes/saves and write/load with JSON. Would that make it persist?

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey @Chazrox
                                          last edited by

                                          @Chazrox it does persist for me with the snippet I provided. It should retain the last value it was set to.

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                                          • ChazroxC
                                            Chazrox @d.healey
                                            last edited by

                                            @d-healey I tested it in Ableton. Value doesn't survive relaunch. Might just be Ableton.

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