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    • hisefiloH
      hisefilo
      last edited by

      Hi mates, I'm working on a kick instrument in Faust. Transients are VERY important for the sound I wish.

      Thing is that the same code sounds different if I play it into a Scriptnode Syntheszier rather than a Script FX with a midi chain.

      Question: Does Scriptnode Syntheszier or Midi Envelopes do some kind of smoothing somewhere? I set 0ms for attack but still not sounding the same.

      Video and screenshoot showing it!
      Screenshot 2024-08-22 at 17.44.21.png

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      • clevername27C
        clevername27 @hisefilo
        last edited by

        @hisefilo I've got the same thing.

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        • A
          aaronventure
          last edited by

          Try removing the default envelope and add your own scripted envelope.

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          • hisefiloH
            hisefilo @aaronventure
            last edited by

            @aaronventure thanks mate! added an empty Scripted Envelope and still smoothing. Do you have any example on how to script a simple envelope on HISE script?

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              aaronventure
              last edited by aaronventure

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              It's a bit funky, still.

              Do you even need the scriptnode synth if your output is supposed to be monophonic?

              The point of the scriptnode synth is that it offers the built in voice paradigm and supports HISE's polyphony for modulators etc.

              The attack being soft is still weird. I notice in one example in your video, you forget to turn off the scriptnode synth while playing the FX version.

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              • Christoph HartC
                Christoph Hart @aaronventure
                last edited by

                A synth voice resets the internal state of each note and that might cause eg the gain node to ramp in its gain from silence (depending on the smoothing time). I guess it‘s something like that

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                • hisefiloH
                  hisefilo @aaronventure
                  last edited by

                  @aaronventure Thanks a lot !!!

                  I can do it monophonic but have to deal with midi into a ScriptFX. (And glitches on fast repeating notes)

                  Yes! I missed the scriptnode turned on on a moment.

                  tried the snipped, but same results

                  Screenshot 2024-08-26 at 12.50.10.png

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                  • hisefiloH
                    hisefilo @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by

                    @Christoph-Hart I get the same results with or without a gain node :(
                    Any other place to edit the source an see how if blows in parts?
                    Any clue?
                    :crossed_fingers_medium-light_skin_tone:

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                    • clevername27C
                      clevername27 @hisefilo
                      last edited by

                      @hisefilo Pls let us know if you find a solution.

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                      • hisefiloH
                        hisefilo @clevername27
                        last edited by

                        @clevername27 hi mate. I’m on vacations. I think i went with the scripfx mono to avoid smoothing. I will confirm when home

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