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    • clevername27C
      clevername27 @Mighty23
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      @Mighty23 Very interesting, and thank you for sharing. Am I correct that this is multiband distortion, or is there also some dynamics processing as well?

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      • clevername27C
        clevername27 @Morphoice
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        @Morphoice Thank you for sharing. Not a whacking, but I work with two of these companies; could I ask you to pls characterise these as more "…in the spirit of…" and not "…copies of…"? 🙏

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        • clevername27C
          clevername27 @Allen
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          @Allen I assume nobody is here posting actual transfer functions they measured.

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            Mighty23 @clevername27
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            @clevername27 said in Saturation Models (Neve, Tweaker, Oxford Inflator) in FAUST:

            or is there also some dynamics processing as well?

            there is no compressor/limiter/gate in the processing. I would consider it 100% multiband waveshaping.

            @Allen said in Saturation Models (Neve, Tweaker, Oxford Inflator) in FAUST:

            For the band split, you may want to use the linkwitz riley instead of svf.

            Yes, for sure. Many Thanks.

            @Allen said in Saturation Models (Neve, Tweaker, Oxford Inflator) in FAUST:

            may I know what CPU you're are running this code on?

            10510u i7 on Windows
            Late 2016 Mini Mac overclocked and open-core operating system.

            Free Party, Free Tekno & Free Software too

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            • MorphoiceM
              Morphoice @clevername27
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              @clevername27 they're not measured, someone on reddit reverse enginered them so they are somewhat common knowledge among the DSP community, I'm not claiming any of those is a copy of something, it's just knowledge I gathered off the web. This is an old post though, I'm making my own functions for saturation now, and I'm using desmos to create them, closely matching stuff I can indeed measure from real hardware and then bring them over in faust. Unfortunately it's all done by hand, I have no Idea on how to "automatically" transfer measurements into transfer functions. It's a lot of guesswork until the curve looks somewhat similar

              Those are the two waveshaper curves I find most pleasing, sonically, anything in between those is great and much faster calculated than the popular tanh for saturation

              Screenshot 2025-01-30 at 14.08.55.png

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              • clevername27C
                clevername27 @Morphoice
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                @Morphoice Thank you for sharing. 🍸

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                • griffinboyG
                  griffinboy @Morphoice
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                  @Morphoice

                  If you want to find the functions automatically it's not that hard I can show you. It can be done with python or MATLAB very easily.

                  You'll quicky discover that a static waveshaper cannot represent the measurements of analog distortion, but you can however create the 'best fit' automatically.

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                  • MorphoiceM
                    Morphoice @griffinboy
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                    @griffinboy it's probably a good idea to morph between waveshaping curves according to signal strength but then again here we are considering hysteresis again ;)

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                    • griffinboyG
                      griffinboy @Morphoice
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                      @Morphoice

                      yeah no, morphing a waveshaper based on signal strength doesn't really have much effect unless it has memory or smoothing. Else you've just done a static transformation of the curve and created another static curve. It has to have memory / hysteresis to actually represent anything nonlinear.

                      But collecting transfer function data from analog devices can still be super useful and can inform approximations.

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                      • ChazroxC
                        Chazrox @Morphoice
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                        @Morphoice Where can I learn how to apply this? Maybe you can tell me what this is and I can do y research. Thanks brotha.

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                        • clevername27C
                          clevername27 @griffinboy
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                          • clevername27C
                            clevername27 @griffinboy
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                            @griffinboy Doing each partial statically will model non-linearity.

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