Write to the general library folder

[Oli Ullmann]

The possibility to write to the general library folder would be great (MAC). This means in the general Plug-Ins folder (VST3/Component) and in the general Application Support folder.

This would mean that it would no longer be necessary to use whitebox packages or similar, but you could program a complete installer yourself.

The same applies to Windows, of course, so that you can do without Inno Setup or similar.

[d.healey]

@Oli-Ullmann what's the question?

[Oli Ullmann]

@d-healey
It is a feature request... :-)

It is about the possibility to write to general folders. So far you can only write to the user folder. For example usersname/application support.

[d.healey]

@Oli-Ullmann said in Write to the general library folder:

So far you can only write to the user folder. For example usersname/application support.

You can write to any folder you want if you have the user's permission (so this isn't really a feature request for HISE). You can also use FileSystem.getFolder(FileSystem.AppData); to get the user's app data folder.

And if you want to access the system app data folder you enable this option (which I have found causes other issues so I just use the user folder).

For Windows you might also want this.

[Oli Ullmann]

@d-healey
I was not able to write to the general VST3 folder. Only to the user VST3 folder. Did you manage to write to the general VST3 folder? I am using packages to do this as I have not found a way to do this from within HISE.

[Oli Ullmann]

@d-healey
This is not working:

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[d.healey]

@Oli-Ullmann This is the code I'm using, looks like I'm installing to the user directory

Rhapsody/Scripts/Plugins.js at main

Rhapsody - HISE based sample library player.

Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)

[Oli Ullmann]

@d-healey
Yes, you do. But I don't want to use that for the installer, because I think there are DAWs that don't search for plug-ins in the user VST / Component folder. That's why I need the option to write to the general VST3 folder. Hence the feature request. Because then, as I said, you can completely do without packages or the like.

[d.healey]

@Oli-Ullmann said in Write to the general library folder:

I think there are DAWs that don't search for plug-ins in the user VST folder.

They should, it's part of the Steinberg spec, and the user should be able to redirect it.

@Oli-Ullmann said in Write to the general library folder:

Hence the feature request.

I think it's a limitation created by Mac's gatekeeping rather than something on the HISE side. It might be there is a custom plist option you can add to your binaries that will allow access. If you find such a thing let me know and I might be able to add it as a checkbox option in HISE preferences like I did for Windows.

[Oli Ullmann]

@d-healey
Oh, that sounds cool! :-)

I'll finish my plug-in and installer with the help of packages first, as I'm a bit pressed for time. As soon as version 1 is released, I'll look into it again and let you know if I find out anything.

PS. Yes, the user can actually define several VST paths in every DAW I know. But I don't think the user VST folder is the default and I just want to avoid support requests... :-)

[d.healey]

@Oli-Ullmann I did a big of looking into this today. There isn't a simple method unfortunately. You'll need to run a separate process (probably a bash script) that uses Apple's authorization services to request permission from the user, then copy the files from a temp location to the destination.

[Oli Ullmann]

@d-healey
Hey David,

thanks for checking that again! :-) I'll try to find out how Whitebox Packages solves it. Maybe I can find a good approach there.

All the best
Oli

[d.healey]

@Oli-Ullmann I think this is the source code for it - https://github.com/packagesdev/packages

[Oli Ullmann]

@d-healey
Thanks to you. I'll see if I can find anything.

[clevername27]

@Oli-Ullmann Been writing to that library for years. Still haven't heard back.

[Oli Ullmann]

@clevername27
Good to know.@d-healey has no problems either. Maybe I shouldn't worry so much and just write to the User VST3 folder... Thanks for your feedback! :-)