Gain Collector

orange

Hello
What is the Gain Collector Fx unit? What purposes is it used for?
There are 2 modes; Simple LP & Attack/Release. And I couldn't figured it out...

Christoph Hart

It's a rather unsuccesful attempt of a tool that matches release samples to the sustain volume.

The idea was that it grabs the volume of the sustain sampler and applies it to the release sampler so that you end up with seamless transitions from sustain to release with decaying samples, but it didn't really work out too good. You might want to experiment with it though.

Basically you use the FX module to detect the volume and then the modulator on the modulation target you want to modulate.

Christoph Hart

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orange

@christoph-hart said in Gain Collector:

It's a rather unsuccesful attempt of a tool that matches release samples to the sustain volume.

The idea was that it grabs the volume of the sustain sampler and applies it to the release sampler so that you end up with seamless transitions from sustain to release with decaying samples, but it didn't really work out too good. You might want to experiment with it though.

Basically you use the FX module to detect the volume and then the modulator on the modulation target you want to modulate.

How can we get that value from Gain Collector to modulate a target?

Christoph Hart

LOL, you can't :), I removed the other module (it was a modulator that connected to the FX module), but forgot to remove the FX (IIRC the modulator module was making trouble when migrating some stuff and I just wanted to get rid of it). I'll remove the FX module too to clean things up and avoid the confusion in the future...

d.healey

For handling release triggers I just use a standard envelope and the release trigger script (actually I use my modified version).

orange

@d-healey said in Gain Collector:

For handling release triggers I just use a standard envelope and the release trigger script (actually I use my modified version).

I think this Gain Collector unit is for Transient Shaping. The best usage of Transient shapers, is using for drum loops to remove/add attack - release to per beat.
It would be good to have it, anyway...

resonant

How can we use this gain collector @Christoph-Hart ? I tried with getValue from gain collector, but it didn't work.
Can you give a small example?

orange

Yes it would be great that if you share an example for this @Christoph-Hart

orange

@Christoph-Hart

I'm trying to get the gain value from the Gain Collector.

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What is the wrong thing in this? I think we have a chance to modulate any effect's parameter (such as an EQ's gain, Simple gain...etc for dynamic good fx stuff) with this gain value that obtained from gain collector.

const var GC = Synth.getEffect("GC");

const var Reduction = Content.getComponent("Reduction");


const var t = Engine.createTimerObject();
t.setTimerCallback(function()
{
	var v = GC.getAttribute(GC.Gain);
	
	v = Engine.getDecibelsForGainFactor(v);
	
	Reduction.setValue(v);
});

t.startTimer(30);

orange

@Christoph-Hart Any opinion about this? Please make it possible man...

Christoph Hart

It's a deprecated module, so chances are vanishingly tiny that this will work.

The long-term solution for these kind of tasks will be hnode (I have plans for adding a data layer shared between hnode objects so you can create multiple modules and share the data between them). But again, don't hold your breath for it :)

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