Little trouble with nested includes

[A Former User]

Ok got a little bit further by adding the src path as an Additional Include Directory in VS but then ran into about 10000 syntax errors so I think I'll look for a different library...

[d.healey]

@iamlamprey You may only need to solve one of those errors to fix them all ;)

[Christoph Hart]

@d-healey yes but Eigen is a very complex and heavyweight library so it‘s not the easiest task to include it.

[A Former User]

Yeah there doesn't really seem to be an agreed upon convention for getting TF working in C++, some people are using numpy/eigen, some are making their own wrappers like Frugally Deep and cppflow...

@Christoph-Hart Can third party nodes support prebuilt static libraries? Or does it have to be the source code? I might just have to bite the bullet and remake my autoencoder in pytorch since using TF in C++ is just a mess

[KimiA]

@iamlamprey Using Machine Learning models in C++ can be quite tricky but here's an open source project by CHOW-DSP that uses machine learning and juce to model a Klon Centaur pedal.

I believe it uses RT Neural which is meant for real-time audio, however, the process should be somewhat similar.

https://github.com/jatinchowdhury18/KlonCentaur
https://github.com/jatinchowdhury18/RTNeural

Hopefully, this helps with getting the implementation working.

All the best!

[A Former User]

@KimiA Legend! I'll take a look, thank you :)

[A Former User]

Okay think I have Tensorflow and CPPFlow building thanks for your help everyone!

Once I figure everything out and make sure it works properly I'll write up a quick post about it, in case anyone else here wants to mess around with Autoencoders (or god forbid try getting a GAN training)

Now onto the real endgame... how does one print to the HISE console from inside a Node?

[A Former User]

why are the simplest things so difficult for me

// Parameter Functions -------------------------------------------------------
	
	template <int P> void setParameter(double v)
	{
		if (P == 0)
		{
			// This will be executed for MyParameter (see below)
			String s;
                        s = "test";
			jassertfalse;
			debugToConsole(hise::Processor::getProcessor(), s);
		}
	}

[Christoph Hart]

If you‘re creating a third party node you‘ll most likely end up debugging jn VS / Xcode directly so you can print and breakpoint directly in the IDE.

Just open the IDE project in the DSPNetwork/Binaries subfolder, it should have the target set to the HISE Standalone app that will launch when you start debugging the project.

[A Former User]

@Christoph-Hart do I have to manually target HISE if this happens?

or just debug the HISE project instead?

[Christoph Hart]

@iamlamprey Yes, go to the Project properties and select the HISE x64 Debug.exe as Command:

If you then click on the Debug play button in VS it will launch HISE and as soon as you load a node from your DLL it will jump into the code and you can step through it and print stuff. DBG("Funky"); is your friend here.

[A Former User]

@Christoph-Hart Got it, thank you :)

[A Former User]

@Christoph-Hart What would be the best way to add JSON-loadability to a node? Is that a realistic ask or would I be better off trying to just make this a base processor instead of a node?

[Christoph Hart]

@iamlamprey there is no API for communication with Strings so that will be a bit tricky. What data do you want to communicate?

[A Former User]

@Christoph-Hart Yeh that would explain the error.

I'm trying to load a tensorflow model, so the data would be both the model itself (layers & their hyperparameters) and the actual weights & bias of the network (the "trained" part). They're mostly doubles I think but there's some strings in there as well for the type of layer & activation functions

The goal is

audio sample -> [network] -> output, where [network] is a big ol bunch of matrix math that does all the blackbox stuff automatically

Not gonna lie I may have bit off more than i can chew here, I've been watching Cherno's C++ series and I'm starting to grasp some of it but man my brain hurts lol.

I think I'll have to just get familiar with the tensorflow C api, all these other libraries and dependencies seem to pile up errors, and I really only need a few pieces of tensorflow (conv1d, leakyrelu, layernorm etc)

[Christoph Hart]

@iamlamprey Do you need to load different JSON files on runtime or can you include them in the C++ source?

[A Former User]

@Christoph-Hart Ideally different ones at runtime (loading different models), but I could probably get away with including all of the models, then just use a node Parameter to switch between them and hide that parameter from the end user

worst case scenario I can copy the weight values manually into a struct or something and write my own activations (those are pretty simple), then the only part left really is re-creating the convolution layer, which is probably the hardest part

[A Former User]

Here's an example of a "trained" model (it's not actually trained, the weights just get randomized on initialization) if it helps explain it better

encoder_weights.json

[Christoph Hart]

@iamlamprey Is the structure of the JSON always the same? Because if it is then I would recommend spending some time writing a batch tool that converts it to C structs, otherwise I would stick to loading and parsing JSON - there are classes available in JUCE that do this for you but embedding Strings as hardcoded values with escaping the special characters is a bit annoying.

And yes I would definitely go the route of embedding all model data and then choosing the one you want with a parameter.

[A Former User]

@Christoph-Hart It is the same "for now" because Tensorflow is Tensorflow and they'll probably change everything in a week for no apparent reason

Embedding sounds good, while I've got you here, can you recommend any great C++ resources? Now that I'm finally getting around to learning it :) anything specifically JUCE-related would be bonus points