Macro again

[ulrik]

Can someone explain for me why this 2 logs doesn't show the same values?
There must be something I don't understand (well there is a lot of that kind of stuff .. )

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[Christoph Hart]

@ulrik the macro modulation system is not exact - think of it as a way to move the knobs instead of having to move them manually but don‘t expect mathematical accuracy.

In this case the call to setValue was done a little bit earlier than the callback execution.

[ulrik]

@christoph-hart so you're saying that the value from a macro controlled knobs callback is never accurate between 0 and 1?

As you can see here, when using the step waveform,

first step (0):
level = 0
macro cb value = 0

second step (0.5)
level = 0.5
macro cb value = 0.25

third step (1)
level = 1
macro cb value = 1

[ulrik]

@Christoph-Hart I think I'm completely misunderstanding the macro system, I have to read up on it :)
Sorry

[Christoph Hart]

@ulrik The value range will be accurate, it's just the timing of when it has which value that is imprecise because it will just fetch a single value of a buffer and then call a script function which might be executed a few milliseconds later.

You can use it for modulating a parameter with slow movements, but if you're trying to make a "real" modulation system, then this is not the right tool.

[ulrik]

@christoph-hart said in Macro again:

but if you're trying to make a "real" modulation system, then this is not the right tool.

What is your suggestion how to make a real system, if I wan't to control parameters that is not controllable via a LFO Modulator module?

[Christoph Hart]

@ulrik You basically have three options here:

1. Use the modulation system for parameters that are modulatable
2. Use the macro modulation system for unmodulatable parameters and live with the timing issues
3. Use scriptnode and build whatever modulation architecture you need.

[ulrik]

@christoph-hart said in Macro again:

Use scriptnode and build whatever modulation architecture you need.

I will go for number 3 !!
I just have to start learning scriptnode now :)
Thank you Christoph!