Paint Routines ADSR

[d.healey]

Why you want this?

[UD AUDIO]

@MikeB You need to connect the hold+decay I guess. But can't help with the LAF.

[UD AUDIO]

@d-healey Sorry..you didn't asked me but
"The most common form of envelope generator is controlled with four parameters:
attack, decay, sustain and release (ADSR). " (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envelope_(music))

So it's useful for classic synths or whatever..

[d.healey]

@UD-AUDIO Just use the AHDSR, do you think users will complain about extra control? :p

[UD AUDIO]

@d-healey I don't dislike the AHDSR. But sometimes you might want ADSR only.
Just have a look at classic synths out there..there are a lot using ADSR.
So I think there is no best option.
And in FL Studio for example there is also DAHDSR which looks like this:

[d.healey]

Well it's a lot of work to remove functionality :p What about just setting the hold time to 0?

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[UD AUDIO]

@d-healey
@staiff said in Global Modulator within Containers:

another case: when you want to create just an ADSR (instead of AHDSR) : you can link the Hold and decay for just 1 button slider.

Tried that but it's messy and the decay is not a straight line when the decay curve is set to 50% etc.
The "MASTER" knob should have the same properties (ms).

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[MikeB]

@d-healey Because:

a. The animation in the linked ADHSR floating tile graph bothers me.

b. Because the approach you suggested some time ago - simply showing an unused module - doesn't work properly.
I can't get back to 0 with the slider - even though it shows zero the graph and the ADHSR module slider is at 2 or 5 ms.

I would also have to create a display dummy for each ADHSR module (8 of them).
That seems overkill.

A reasonable paint routine version would be the optimum here.

I already have a solution from ulrik for decay (see snippet). Perhaps someone with the necessary mathematical knowledge can expand it and then post it as a snippet for everyone.

[MikeB]

@UD-AUDIO My question is only about the representation in the GUI, not about the function or the connection - which are known to me :-)

[UD AUDIO]

@MikeB Stupid me :D

[MikeB]

This is my attempt - I can't get much further than that.
I can't connect the knobs with the dots
And above all I don't get any bezier curves in the attack, decay and release.

If someone with the basic mathematical knowledge of Leonardo Fibonacci can help me?

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[MikeB]

No one who can help me here?

[Natan]

@MikeB Dear Mike
Why Not Making It With Sliders And LAF?
So They Look Nicer, And Draggable Aswell?

You Just Need Rectangles And Triangle, Right?

[MikeB]

@Natan Actually, I would like to display this in my gui

only without animation like in the FloatingTile
But drawn as a path and moved by the knobs.
As in my first snippet above.

I hope one of the PaintRoutine masters here has a few minutes to do this. :folded_hands:

[d.healey]

@MikeB I really think we can do this with the default floating tile and just disable the animation in the source (maybe we could even add it as a setting).

[MikeB]

@d-healey That would be fantastic of course. I already thought that it can't be impossible to switch off the animation and wanted to search the source code. But if you can do it, that's better.
Thanks Dave.

[d.healey]

@MikeB I'll look into it. Just so I can check though, you have a project with several envelopes and they all have the same adsr values, so you just need to display one?

[MikeB]

@d-healey
Great - no I have several ADSR FloatingTiles and they all have different values.
Therefore a standard AHDSR graph without animation would be wonderful.
Alternatively an AHDSR-Graph drawn with PaintRoutine.

[Natan]

@MikeB Dear Mike

You Don't Like That Moving Circle Animation, On Adsr! Correct?

[Matt_SF]

@MikeB I'm scratching my head since yesterday to get Path.quadraticTo() working correctly with ADSR knobs + atkCurve and dcyCurve. It can work but it's a mess and requires a bunch of code lines (although I'm sure @d-healey would find a beautiful way to write it).
If there's a way to use the default floating tile to do it, I think it would be much better.