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    • d.healeyD
      d.healey
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      You can do this with a table envelope or script envelope

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        Table envelope : How so , for me it always goes up to the cutoff point.

        Script envelope . Tried it , not much luck so far , but admittedly I might easily be missing something in scriptnode ?

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          @lalalandsynth If you set the cutoff to 20kHz then you can use the table envelope to start/end at any point.

          Script envelope doesn't need scriptnode.
          Edit: actually maybe it does, I thought it was like a scripted voice start modulator but seems it's something else.
          Edit2: Seems it used to be like the voice start modulator because that's what the docs show.

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            @d-healey said in Envelope as modulator - changes needed.:

            actually maybe it does, I thought it was like a scripted voice start modulator but seems it's something else

            2 Questions .

            1. I am assuming you mean like this ?
              This way I cannot get to to close properly , not full range.
              Filter Envelope.gif

            2. Should the AR envelope affect the filter envelope like that ? Filter envelope 2.gif

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            • d.healeyD
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                @d-healey This does not do anything over here ? I am starting to feel stupid .

                Filter envelope 3.gif

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                • d.healeyD
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                  I don't think your eyes have a refresh rate of 15ms :p Use your ears instead or increase the attack time.

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                    @d-healey oh, I get it to work now .. this is a workaround in my opinion...but something ! quite fiddly.

                    Do you suggest then using a Filter cutoff knob connected to the first table value and switching over to the filter freq knob when the envelope is disengaged ?

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                      @lalalandsynth You mean for front-end control for the user?

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                        @d-healey Yes, a typical example I have in mind is to apply the ADSR/Vca envelope or a unique envelope to the filter ,with amount , while being able to use a cutoff knob for the filter. Thereby offsetting the whole thing.

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                        • d.healeyD
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                          Then I think your idea sounds fine.

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                          • lalalandsynthL
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                            Ok, trying that .
                            I am a bit obsessive ... :P

                            EDIT: Turns out that the table cannot be used as realtime cutoff connected to a knob , jumps values while sweeping , very noticable from 0-1%.

                            Also , if you hold it long enough , it jumps to the top after the Attack stage is finished.

                            Filter envelope 5.gif

                            And for some reason , some poly issue the Simple envelope on the VCA affects the later table envelope . Dont really understand that.
                            Filter envelope 6.gif

                            This whole thing should be simpler to do.
                            Again, maybe an 0 offset control on the adsr , connected in this case to the filter.
                            Something like that , not sure what would be the best way.

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