WTF is This?

clevername27

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TF does any of this mean? "…are not properly initialised" doesn't make sense, grammatically. None of the nodes in my Network have special parameters, except two — and those values are fine. What widget should be "ticked"?

I did notice this old bug…

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clevername27

Bump.

d.healey

@clevername27 https://forum.hise.audio/topic/12502/msvc-only-error-c3203-unspecialized-class-template-works-fine-on-mac/34?_=1748541551649

clevername27

@d-healey HI David, thank you - I don't understand, though.

d.healey

@clevername27 It's s warning to tell you that the node properties json file is missing. Read through that thread I linked, Christoph explains the issue higher up, and the reason for the pop-up.

It was added in this commit https://github.com/christophhart/HISE/commit/91a7633924ad30553092bcab1e78a7f442946192

clevername27

@d-healey Thank you - I'm not using 3rd-party nodes, though. I don't see how that thread applies?

d.healey

@clevername27 said in WTF is This?:

I don't see how that thread applies?

Are you using any custom C++ nodes you made yourself?

clevername27

@d-healey No, I am not.

d.healey

@clevername27 I have no idea then

Christoph Hart

Whats prismExciter then?

clevername27

@Christoph-Hart @d-healey Thank you, Chris (And David). It's Faust code. I eliminated it and cleared out related folders. Now I have below—what is it asking me to do? Thank you.

clevername27

@d-healey Thank you for trying, tho.

Christoph Hart

@clevername27 is there a node_properties.json file in the ThirdParty folder? If yes, delete that and try again.

clevername27

@Christoph-Hart Thank you. There is not. I can't seem to create the file.

Christoph Hart

@clevername27 hmm let me check real quick.

Christoph Hart

@Christoph-Hart alright, there was in fact an error with a false positive if you have no C++ nodes present. Now it should compile.

clevername27

@Christoph-Hart Thank you - I see you've pushed it already. I'll give it a shot.

clevername27

@Christoph-Hart Thank you, that fixed this particular issue. However, I'm now back at the old issue of not being able to compile clone networks with clone packs. As I reported on GitHub, I posted several threads with example code, where other HISE developers experienced the same problems, and we collectively tried to track down the source code. Might you be able to please look at that?

Christoph Hart

@clevername27 yeah, most of these examples are non-complete - the clone container compilation is very delicate so just using a empty container or a pack that a isn't connected to anything will not work.

Can you show me a non-trivial example that doesn't work?

In the HISE repo there is a example network that is actually part of the CI pipeline that compiles a clone container.

clevername27

@Christoph-Hart Sure! I was able to successfully compile the "Clone Test" Network on GitHub. My Network has Clonepacks, and I think they may be a factor for me. Here's the Network I'm trying to compile. Thank you.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

<Network ID="prismNewerHybridModeller" AllowPolyphonic="1" Version="0.0.0"
         SuspendOnSilence="1" AllowCompilation="1">
  <Node FactoryPath="container.chain" ID="prismNewerHybridModeller" Bypassed="0"
        Name="prismNewerHybridModeller" NodeColour="4288387995" ShowParameters="1">
    <Nodes>
      <Node ID="chain" FactoryPath="container.chain" Bypassed="0" Name="chain">
        <Properties>
          <Property ID="IsVertical" Value="0"/>
        </Properties>
        <Nodes>
          <Node ID="clone_pack2" FactoryPath="control.clone_pack" Bypassed="0"
                Name="clonepack_frequency" NodeColour="4278233087">
            <ModulationTargets>
              <Connection NodeId="oscillator" ParameterId="Frequency"/>
            </ModulationTargets>
            <ComplexData>
              <SliderPacks>
                <SliderPack Index="1"/>
              </SliderPacks>
            </ComplexData>
            <Parameters>
              <Parameter MinValue="1.0" MaxValue="16.0" ID="NumClones" DefaultValue="1.0"
                         Automated="1" SkewFactor="0.9094748120090845"/>
              <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" ID="Value" Value="1.0"/>
            </Parameters>
          </Node>
          <Node ID="clone_pack4" FactoryPath="control.clone_pack" Bypassed="0"
                Name="clonepack_volume" NodeColour="3422552319">
            <ModulationTargets>
              <Connection NodeId="oscillator" ParameterId="Gain"/>
            </ModulationTargets>
            <ComplexData>
              <SliderPacks>
                <SliderPack Index="2" EmbeddedData="64....f+....9C...3O.........9C...3O...f+....9C...3O...f+....9C...3O...f+....9C...3O...f+."/>
              </SliderPacks>
            </ComplexData>
            <Parameters>
              <Parameter MinValue="1.0" MaxValue="16.0" ID="NumClones" DefaultValue="1.0"
                         Automated="1" SkewFactor="0.9094748120090845"/>
              <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" ID="Value" Value="1.0"/>
            </Parameters>
          </Node>
          <Node ID="clone_pack" FactoryPath="control.clone_pack" Bypassed="0"
                Name="clonepack_duration" NodeColour="2315321299">
            <ModulationTargets>
              <Connection NodeId="ramp1" ParameterId="PeriodTime"/>
            </ModulationTargets>
            <ComplexData>
              <SliderPacks>
                <SliderPack Index="0" EmbeddedData="64.tdTH+7Qgq6ilYlwOEtdD+zLyL7SgqGwO......................................................"/>
              </SliderPacks>
            </ComplexData>
            <Parameters>
              <Parameter MinValue="1.0" MaxValue="16.0" ID="NumClones" DefaultValue="1.0"
                         Automated="1" SkewFactor="0.9094748120090845"/>
              <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" ID="Value" Value="1.0"/>
            </Parameters>
          </Node>
          <Node ID="clone_pack3" FactoryPath="control.clone_pack" Bypassed="0"
                Name="clone_balance" NodeColour="4287842047">
            <ModulationTargets>
              <Connection NodeId="gain" ParameterId="Gain"/>
            </ModulationTargets>
            <ComplexData>
              <SliderPacks>
                <SliderPack Index="3"/>
              </SliderPacks>
            </ComplexData>
            <Parameters>
              <Parameter MinValue="1.0" MaxValue="16.0" ID="NumClones" DefaultValue="1.0"
                         Automated="1" SkewFactor="0.9094748120090845"/>
              <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" ID="Value" Value="1.0"/>
            </Parameters>
          </Node>
        </Nodes>
        <Parameters/>
      </Node>
      <Node ID="dynamic_blocksize" FactoryPath="container.dynamic_blocksize"
            Bypassed="0" Name="dynamic_blocksize" NodeColour="2134834944"
            ShowParameters="1">
        <Nodes>
          <Node ID="clone" FactoryPath="container.clone" Bypassed="0" Name="clone"
                NodeColour="4288020224" ShowClones="0" ShowParameters="1">
            <Nodes>
              <Node ID="clone_child" FactoryPath="container.chain" Bypassed="0" Name="clone_child"
                    NodeColour="2072874381" ShowParameters="0">
                <Nodes>
                  <Node ID="voice_bang" FactoryPath="control.voice_bang" Bypassed="0"
                        Name="voice_bang" NodeColour="4287561908">
                    <Parameters>
                      <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" ID="Value" Value="1.0" DefaultValue="0.0"/>
                    </Parameters>
                    <ModulationTargets>
                      <Connection NodeId="ramp1" ParameterId="Gate"/>
                    </ModulationTargets>
                  </Node>
                  <Node ID="ramp1" FactoryPath="core.ramp" Bypassed="0" Name="ramp" NodeColour="4294942208">
                    <ComplexData>
                      <DisplayBuffers>
                        <DisplayBuffer Index="-1"/>
                      </DisplayBuffers>
                    </ComplexData>
                    <Parameters>
                      <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1000.0" StepSize="0.1000000014901161"
                                 ID="PeriodTime" DefaultValue="100.0" Automated="1"/>
                      <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" ID="LoopStart" Value="1.0" DefaultValue="0.0"/>
                      <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" ID="Gate" DefaultValue="1.0" Automated="1"/>
                    </Parameters>
                    <ModulationTargets>
                      <Connection NodeId="cable_table" ParameterId="Value"/>
                    </ModulationTargets>
                  </Node>
                  <Node ID="cable_table" FactoryPath="control.cable_table" Bypassed="1"
                        Name="cable_table" NodeColour="4278255501">
                    <ComplexData>
                      <Tables>
                        <Table Index="0" EmbeddedData="24..........9C...vO...f+.........vO"/>
                      </Tables>
                    </ComplexData>
                    <Parameters>
                      <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" ID="Value" Automated="1"/>
                    </Parameters>
                    <ModulationTargets>
                      <Connection NodeId="gain16" ParameterId="Gain"/>
                    </ModulationTargets>
                  </Node>
                  <Node ID="no_midi" FactoryPath="container.no_midi" Bypassed="0" Name="no_midi"
                        NodeColour="2391246727">
                    <Nodes>
                      <Node ID="oscillator" FactoryPath="core.oscillator" Bypassed="0" Name="oscillator"
                            NodeColour="4287663758">
                        <ComplexData>
                          <DisplayBuffers>
                            <DisplayBuffer Index="-1"/>
                          </DisplayBuffers>
                        </ComplexData>
                        <Parameters>
                          <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="4.0" StepSize="1.0" ID="Mode" Value="0.0"/>
                          <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="20000.0" ID="Frequency" DefaultValue="20"
                                     Automated="1"/>
                          <Parameter MinValue="1.0" MaxValue="16.0" StepSize="1.0" ID="Freq Ratio"
                                     Value="1.0"/>
                          <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" StepSize="1.0" ID="Gate" Value="1.0"/>
                          <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" ID="Phase" Value="0.0"/>
                          <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" ID="Gain" DefaultValue="1.0" Automated="1"/>
                        </Parameters>
                      </Node>
                    </Nodes>
                    <Parameters/>
                  </Node>
                  <Node ID="gain16" FactoryPath="core.gain" Bypassed="0" Name="oscillatorVolume"
                        NodeColour="4282992969">
                    <Parameters>
                      <Parameter MinValue="-100.0" MaxValue="0.0" ID="Gain" Automated="1" StepSize="0.1"
                                 SkewFactor="5.422270979580217"/>
                      <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1000.0" StepSize="0.1000000014901161"
                                 SkewFactor="0.3010300099849701" ID="Smoothing" Value="20.0"/>
                      <Parameter MinValue="-100.0" MaxValue="0.0" StepSize="0.1000000014901161"
                                 SkewFactor="5.422270774841309" ID="ResetValue" Value="-100.0"
                                 DefaultValue="0.0"/>
                    </Parameters>
                  </Node>
                  <Node ID="gain" FactoryPath="core.gain" Bypassed="0" Name="perceptualFreqPad"
                        NodeColour="4289177511">
                    <Parameters>
                      <Parameter MinValue="-100.0" MaxValue="0.0" StepSize="0.1" SkewFactor="5.422270979580217"
                                 ID="Gain" Automated="1"/>
                      <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1000.0" StepSize="0.1000000014901161"
                                 SkewFactor="0.3010300099849701" ID="Smoothing" Value="20.0"/>
                      <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="-100.0" StepSize="0.1000000014901161"
                                 SkewFactor="5.422270774841309" ID="ResetValue" Value="-100.0"
                                 DefaultValue="0.0"/>
                    </Parameters>
                  </Node>
                </Nodes>
                <Parameters/>
              </Node>
            </Nodes>
            <Parameters>
              <Parameter MinValue="1.0" MaxValue="16.0" ID="NumClones" DefaultValue="1"
                         Automated="1" SkewFactor="0.9094748120090845"/>
              <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="2.0" StepSize="1.0" ID="SplitSignal"
                         Value="1.0" DefaultValue="2.0"/>
            </Parameters>
            <Properties>
              <Property ID="IsVertical" Value="0"/>
            </Properties>
          </Node>
          <Node ID="converter" FactoryPath="control.converter" Bypassed="0" Name="converter"
                NodeColour="4294901760">
            <Properties>
              <Property ID="Mode" Value="Samples2Ms"/>
            </Properties>
            <ModulationTargets>
              <Connection NodeId="jdelay" ParameterId="DelayTime"/>
            </ModulationTargets>
            <Parameters>
              <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="44100.0" StepSize="1.0" ID="Value" Automated="1"/>
            </Parameters>
          </Node>
          <Node ID="jdelay" FactoryPath="jdsp.jdelay" Bypassed="0" Name="jdelay"
                NodeColour="4283387727">
            <Parameters>
              <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1000.0" ID="Limit" Value="1000.0" DefaultValue="0"/>
              <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="30.0" ID="DelayTime" Automated="1"/>
            </Parameters>
          </Node>
          <Node ID="gain19" FactoryPath="core.gain" Bypassed="0" Name="articulationGain"
                NodeColour="4293263104">
            <Parameters>
              <Parameter MinValue="-100.0" MaxValue="12.0" StepSize="0.1" SkewFactor="5.422270979580217"
                         ID="Gain" DefaultValue="0.0" Automated="1"/>
              <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1000.0" StepSize="0.1000000014901161"
                         SkewFactor="0.3010300099849701" ID="Smoothing" Value="20.0"/>
              <Parameter MinValue="-100.0" MaxValue="0.0" StepSize="0.1000000014901161"
                         SkewFactor="5.422270774841309" ID="ResetValue" Value="-100.0"
                         DefaultValue="0.0"/>
            </Parameters>
          </Node>
          <Node ID="gain17" FactoryPath="core.gain" Bypassed="0" Name="instrumentGain"
                NodeColour="4294901918">
            <Parameters>
              <Parameter MinValue="-100.0" MaxValue="12.0" StepSize="0.1" SkewFactor="5.422270979580217"
                         ID="Gain" DefaultValue="0" Automated="1"/>
              <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1000.0" StepSize="0.1000000014901161"
                         SkewFactor="0.3010300099849701" ID="Smoothing" Value="20.0"/>
              <Parameter MinValue="-100.0" MaxValue="0.0" StepSize="0.1000000014901161"
                         SkewFactor="5.422270774841309" ID="ResetValue" Value="-100.0"
                         DefaultValue="0.0"/>
            </Parameters>
          </Node>
          <Node ID="silent_killer" FactoryPath="envelope.silent_killer" Bypassed="0"
                Name="silent_killer" NodeColour="2386509631">
            <Parameters>
              <Parameter MinValue="-120.0" MaxValue="-60.0" StepSize="1.0" ID="Threshold"
                         Value="-120.0" DefaultValue="-100.0"/>
              <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="1.0" StepSize="1.0" ID="Active" Value="1.0"/>
            </Parameters>
          </Node>
        </Nodes>
        <Parameters>
          <Parameter MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="7.0" StepSize="1.0" ID="BlockSize" DefaultValue="4.0"
                     Automated="1"/>
        </Parameters>
      </Node>
    </Nodes>
    <Parameters>
      <Parameter ID="numberOfClonesProcessed" MinValue="1.0" MaxValue="16.0" Value="13.97461125837058"
                 SkewFactor="0.9094748120090845" DefaultValue="1.0">
        <Connections>
          <Connection NodeId="clone" ParameterId="NumClones"/>
          <Connection NodeId="clone_pack2" ParameterId="NumClones"/>
          <Connection NodeId="clone_pack4" ParameterId="NumClones"/>
          <Connection NodeId="clone_pack" ParameterId="NumClones"/>
          <Connection NodeId="clone_pack3" ParameterId="NumClones"/>
        </Connections>
      </Parameter>
      <Parameter ID="articulationGainInDb" MinValue="-100.0" MaxValue="12.0" StepSize="0.1"
                 SkewFactor="5.422270979580217" Value="0.0" DefaultValue="1.0">
        <Connections>
          <Connection NodeId="gain19" ParameterId="Gain"/>
        </Connections>
      </Parameter>
      <Parameter ID="medianStartDelayInSamples" MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="44100.0"
                 StepSize="1.0" Value="0.0" DefaultValue="0">
        <Connections>
          <Connection NodeId="converter" ParameterId="Value"/>
        </Connections>
      </Parameter>
      <Parameter ID="blockSize" MinValue="0.0" MaxValue="7.0" StepSize="1.0" Value="5.0"
                 DefaultValue="1.0">
        <Connections>
          <Connection NodeId="dynamic_blocksize" ParameterId="BlockSize"/>
        </Connections>
      </Parameter>
      <Parameter ID="instrumentGainInDb" MinValue="-100.0" MaxValue="12.0" StepSize="0.1"
                 SkewFactor="5.422270979580217" Value="-100.0" DefaultValue="1.0">
        <Connections>
          <Connection NodeId="gain17" ParameterId="Gain"/>
        </Connections>
      </Parameter>
    </Parameters>
  </Node>
</Network>

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