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    • orangeO
      orange @whoopsydoodle
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      @whoopsydoodle
      You might need to clear the AU cache.

      develop Branch / XCode 13.1
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      • whoopsydoodleW
        whoopsydoodle @orange
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        @orange I've been deleting the com.apple.audiounits.cache in user library. I'm always unsure if I also need to reboot after that.

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        • d.healeyD
          d.healey
          last edited by d.healey

          On Windows, in Pro-Tools, this is what I see on a stereo track:

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          And on a mono track I see this:

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          I have Support Mono FX enabled and Force Stereo Output disabled. I am not using HI_SUPPORT_MONO_TO_STEREO

          Is it possible to have stereo out from a mono track in Pro-Tools?

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          • whoopsydoodleW
            whoopsydoodle
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            I just tried a fresh new project to make sure nothing else was messing things up.

            Support Mono FX ON, Force Stereo left alone so it's default off. Added HI_SUPPORT_MONO_TO_STEREO=1 to Extra Definitions OSX. Compiled AU in Hise. No AU Cache to worry about because it's a new plugin.

            The plugin only shows in the Logic insert menu on stereo tracks as Pluginame > Stereo

            Still no mono > stereo working here.

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey @whoopsydoodle
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              @whoopsydoodle It doesn't show up at all on a mono track?

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              • whoopsydoodleW
                whoopsydoodle @d.healey
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                @d-healey correct

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey @whoopsydoodle
                  last edited by

                  @whoopsydoodle I just made a minimal test project with the settings I mentioned and it's working correctly here. Are you definitely exporting as an effect plugin and not an instrument?

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                  Here's my test project for you to try: fxtest.zip

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                  • orangeO
                    orange @d.healey
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                    @d-healey Which HISE commit are you using?

                    develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                    macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @orange
                      last edited by d.healey

                      @orange A few days ago - dbf11eed4cb2bc1ff458c699812fcf25ea50c52e

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                      • whoopsydoodleW
                        whoopsydoodle @d.healey
                        last edited by

                        @d-healey Got sidetracked with other stuff but I'm back to this one now.

                        Yes, definitely exporting as an FX plugin. I've tried everything in this thread and still unable to get m>s working.

                        You made a simple FX test plugin? Would you be able to send me that? I can try compiling on my end to see if it shows up properly here.

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @whoopsydoodle
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                          @whoopsydoodle said in Mono to Stereo in 2025:

                          Would you be able to send me that?

                          Already did - https://forum.hise.audio/post/99631

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                          • whoopsydoodleW
                            whoopsydoodle @d.healey
                            last edited by

                            @d-healey Ok got it.

                            This is very odd. I compile your test project and it works fine both as Stereo and M>S.

                            I compiled my project with the same settings as your test. Support Mono FX flag and HI_SUPPORT_MONO_TO_STEREO=1 option.

                            When I do AUVAL I even specifically see this, which to my understanding means it supports 1 in 2 out and 2 in 2 out:

                            Reported Channel Capabilities (explicit):
                                  [1, 2]  [2, 2]  
                            

                            But still the plugin will not show up in the inserts menu for mono tracks.

                            Is there some other aspect that could be stopping it from being allowed on a mono track? Possibly something with using hardcoded DSP modules?

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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey @whoopsydoodle
                              last edited by

                              @whoopsydoodle said in Mono to Stereo in 2025:

                              Is there some other aspect that could be stopping it from being allowed on a mono track?

                              Well I think there must be...

                              But I don't know what it is. I think you'll need to start with the test project and build it out until it doesn't work. Or try and figure out what is different between your project and the test project - start with project preferences and make sure they are identical.

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