i kind of figured it out
https://www.patreon.com/XVST herese the example

@Lindon oh cool thank you,
ive kind always like that old interface design of nexus and heatup.
its a clean simple look. the taged version is too big in my honest opinion and the engine im on now only allows for one big bulky ugly list in that screen section of my vst will be deidcated to other feature.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/108836437?pr=true - this is an example of my vst
So im transferring my vst over to hise because i want a preset browser. Similar to REFX nexus.
the host im on right now isnt able to do that.

i want it to be able to scroll, vertically instruments on the left and preests on the right is that possible.