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    • ulrikU
      ulrik
      last edited by ulrik

      I remember a long time ago I was able to have midi in working in FX plugins, today I tried that in a project.
      I tested it in MacOS with a compiled au and a vst3 version in Logic, Ableton Live, Reaper and Studio One,
      only Reaper could read the incoming midi inside the plugin (both au and vst3), all other failed

      Is there some tricks to get it working again in other hosts than Reaper?
      Anybody knows?

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        aaronventure @ulrik
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        @ulrik build VST3i

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        • ulrikU
          ulrik @aaronventure
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          @aaronventure I mean audio fx plugin that can receive midi

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          • ulrikU
            ulrik @ulrik
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            @ulrik I suppose that feature has been taken away in some daws?

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              aaronventure @ulrik
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              @ulrik I know, but it's not working. So export your MIDI plugin as an instrument and simply load it before/after any sound-generating instrument.

              Some DAWs might not like that, I'm not sure if Ableton still has a limit of one VSTi per track.

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              • d.healeyD
                d.healey @ulrik
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                @ulrik Working here with Sordina. This is the only extra thing I added, but I don't think it's related HISE_ENABLE_MIDI_LEARN=1

                Studio One requires some special setup to get MIDI into an audio effect. - https://vi-control.net/community/threads/sordina-2-explore-new-horizons-with-brass-and-string-mutes.146967/page-3#post-5467914

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                  aaronventure @d.healey
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                  @d-healey Ah shit sorry, I thought we were talking about MIDI out. Brainfart, sorry.

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                  • ulrikU
                    ulrik @d.healey
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                    @d-healey said in Audio FX plugin with midi In:

                    @ulrik Working here with Sordina. This is the only extra thing I added, but I don't think it's related HISE_ENABLE_MIDI_LEARN=1

                    Thanks I'll try that 👍

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                    • ulrikU
                      ulrik @d.healey
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                      @d-healey said in Audio FX plugin with midi In:

                      @ulrik Working here with Sordina. This is the only extra thing I added, but I don't think it's related

                      I own Sordina, I have not used it for a long time, so I tried it and I can confirm that midi doesn't work in Sordina on Logic, and Ableton Live MacOS

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                        d.healey @ulrik
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                        @ulrik Latest version of Sordina?

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                        • ulrikU
                          ulrik @d.healey
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                          @d-healey yes, Sordina 2 downloaded today

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                            d.healey @ulrik
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                            @ulrik Seems like this is a quirk of Logic rather than the plugin not responding to MIDI. I would assume the same is true for Ableton. https://www.logicprohelp.com/forums/topic/145708-how-do-i-send-midi-to-a-midi-controlled-audio-effects-plugin/

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                            • ulrikU
                              ulrik @d.healey
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                              @d-healey Yes it seems you're right

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                                ulrik @ulrik
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                                @ulrik Ok, my progress in finding a way to communicate midi to Effect plugins inside Logic and Ableton Live :

                                Using an extra plugin that send OSC messages to the Effect plugin seems to work quite nice, all I need for this plugin is to trigger the TransportHandler with note on and off messages.

                                In Logic the extra plugin (Send OSC) goes into the Midi FX Slot on the same track as the Effect plugin
                                In Live I need to set up an extra track with midi in enabled all the time (even if another track is selected)

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