Polyphonic Glide on Sampler

[Lindon]

@johnmike - yeah thats not really describing what you want to see happen polyphonically...

Lets say you press a chord with these midi note values: 60,64,67 (a CMaj)

..now you press another chord, an octave up: 72,76,79 ...

What do you want to see happen to each of the pressed notes...so we need 6 descriptions...

[johnmike]

@Lindon did you hear the audio example I provided?

[Lindon]

@johnmike said in Polyphonic Glide on Sampler:

@Lindon did you hear the audio example I provided?

yes - and sadly I cant tell which note is being glided to which position from where....jump in anyone if they can tell us the start midi note value and end midi note value for all notes played in the audio example...

thinking about this further - you will also need to say how you want chords to be identified...

[d.healey]

From the audio example, am I right in assuming that when you play a chord all that is happening is each note is bending in pitch from one semi-tone below the final pitch?

If so you can do that with a table envelope assigned to pitch.

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[Lindon]

@d-healey said in Polyphonic Glide on Sampler:

From the audio example, am I right in assuming that when you play a chord all that is happening is each note is bending in pitch from one semi-tone below the final pitch?

If so you can do that with a table envelope assigned to pitch.

in which case its fixed-bend not glide yes?

[d.healey]

@Lindon Yep. It's just a pitch bend, no glide.

[johnmike]

@d-healey BOOM! yes this is it! I don't know why I didn't think of that with the Pitch bend! makes total sense!

[johnmike]

@d-healey wait ....almost it...This pitches the patch up 1 semitone...not trying to do that...when I play a c-chord for instance...it slides up and actually plays a C# chord...I need for it to do the opposite...if I play a C-chord...I need for it to slide up to the C-chord if that makes sense...when I change the pitch modulation from +1 to 0 it does nothing...when I change the pitch modulation to -1 then it goes backwards ha ha...how do I get it to slide fro say -1 to 0?

[d.healey]

@johnmike Did you see that there are two modulators in my snippet? One to compensate for the pitch increase.

[johnmike]

@d-healey yuuuup I forgot to add the Constant! ....sorrry bout that! I think I got it now!

[Adam_G]

@d-healey said in Polyphonic Glide on Sampler:

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sorry to revive an old thread but I'm experimenting with your snippet here @d-healey and when any release is added to the sine wave generator the note plays a second time when the key is released. Is there any way to stop this?

[d.healey]

@Adam_G said in Polyphonic Glide on Sampler:

and when any release is added to the sine wave generator

What do you mean by adding release?

[Adam_G]

@d-healey I mean when you increase the release knob inside of the default envelope

[ulrik]

@Adam_G you need to change the release table to max in the table envelope otherwise the pitch jumps back when you release the keys

[Adam_G]

@ulrik it seems to do that, jumping back, even with the table envelope maxed. do you know why?

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[ulrik]

@Adam_G said in Polyphonic Glide on Sampler:

@ulrik it seems to do that, jumping back, even with the table envelope maxed. do you know why?

You're right, it shouldn't do that, it seems the envelope table module isn't reliable, it has other strange behavior as well, as in this topic :
https://forum.hise.audio/topic/7183/bug-table-envelopes-always-jump-after-attack-completes

anyway you can get it to work without the envelope table modulator, with scripting like this:

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[Adam_G]

@ulrik said in Polyphonic Glide on Sampler:

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thank you @ulrik :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: exactly what i was after

[Adam_G]

@ulrik hey actually i notice that when i add this into my project the midi modules no longer work. transpose, arpeggiator, legato, nada. whats the reason for that and is there a workaround?

[d.healey]

@Adam_G said in Polyphonic Glide on Sampler:

whats the reason for that

I can't remember the details of the script but it's probably doing something with artificial events which will prevent the events going on to further modules. You could try changing the order of the modules and see if that gets around the issue.

[Adam_G]

@d-healey yea its just in the note on and note off

noteon:

function onNoteOn()
{
Message.ignoreEvent(true);

local nn = Message.getNoteNumber();

local id = Synth.addNoteOn(1, GlideTime.getValue() ? nn + GlideAmount.getValue() : nn, Message.getVelocity(), 0);
midiList.setValue(nn, id);

if (GlideTime.getValue())
	Synth.addPitchFade(id, GlideTime.getValue(), - GlideAmount.getValue(), 0);
}
 

noteoff:

function onNoteOff()
{
	Synth.noteOffByEventId(midiList.getValue(Message.getNoteNumber()));
}
 
 

i also cant add a midi player to the project without getting a nasty stuck note every time its used