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      coupe70
      last edited by coupe70

      I would like to build a 12dB/octave lowcut, as neutral as possible.
      The 1 Pole HP looks neutral, but it is only 6dB/octave and stacking 2 of these filters will not exactly be the same as 1x 12dB/octave filter.
      I read here on the forum that the SVF filter is 12dB/octave (is it?), but I'm afraid it will alter the sound (will it?). What Q setting would be as neutral as possible? From the curve in the GUI I would say 0.8? EDIT: ChatGPT says resonance is "neutral" at 0.707.
      And what about the lowcut in the parametric EQ? How steep is it?
      Any other ideas?

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      • Dan KorneffD
        Dan Korneff
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        Stacking two 1-pole (6 dB/oct) high-pass filters is definitely an option, but it doesn’t behave exactly like a single 12 dB/oct design. The slope doubles, but the overall response (phase and the cutoff alignment) will be slightly different.

        The SVF can do a true 12 dB/oct response that's mathematically “neutral”.

        If you need more control over the resonance, a Sallen–Key filter is another solid choice for a 2-pole high-pass filter.

        Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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          coupe70
          last edited by coupe70

          So, I took two SVF with 12dB/oct each and put them behind each other.
          I've set the resonance of both to 0.707 as I read this would be a neutral position
          and that's what it also looks like in HISE GUI.

          When I check the VST it gives me -22.x dB/oct, so that's ok.
          But at the cutoff frequency where I would expect 2x -3dB = -6dB, I have around +1dB!
          As if there was a resonance boost.

          So I made a version with resonance set to 0.3 - the lowest setting possible and I still
          get +0.4dB instead of -6.

          Any idea what's going on?
          Or is it wrong to expect -3dB at the cutoff frequency of a SVF?

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