isPluginParameter and Midi CC (not working in HISE 4.0.0 and 3.x.x)

[hisefilo]

@d-healey This gif is a working example for other plugin, not my debug plugin.

yes, did't record but parameter was moving up and down. This gif is the same but record enabled

[d.healey]

@hisefilo So what happens if you enable record in the original example?

[hisefilo]

@d-healey nothing, does not record. give me 2 minutes

[hisefilo]

@d-healey

[ustk]

Just my 2cent, tried a brainworx synth in PT, it both works with mouse and CC on the same automation track

[d.healey]

@hisefilo What is midiAutom.setConsumeAutomatedControllers(); set to?

[hisefilo]

@d-healey true, and false. both fails

[d.healey]

@hisefilo You need to set it to false

[hisefilo]

@d-healey will re-check! compiling...

[hisefilo]

@d-healey

Content.makeFrontInterface(600, 600);

const var midiAutom = Engine.createMidiAutomationHandler();
midiAutom.setConsumeAutomatedControllers(false);

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results:

[d.healey]

I'll test it here

[d.healey]

Yeah I get the same result, no data is written in the DAW automation lane

[hisefilo]

@d-healey thanks mate! that makes me feel not that lonely :)

[d.healey]

I think what Christoph is perhaps suggesting is instead of recording automation data for the knob we record CC data for the controller (mod wheel in this case). But then as you point out we'll end up with two automation tracks for the same control which isn't good and it will definitely confuse users.

Also you might have multiple plugins on the same track and a controller automation could affect all of them while parameter automation is targeted to the specific plugin.

[hisefilo]

@d-healey so what do you recommend?

[d.healey]

@hisefilo Praying to the Christoph gods

[hisefilo]

@d-healey

"We gather to seek your blessings for Christoph, the guiding light in the realm of DSP software. May his creativity and wisdom continue to shine brightly, bringing innovation and inspiration to all who follow his path. Grant him the strength to overcome challenges, the clarity to make sound decisions, and the grace to lead with humility and kindness. Bless his endeavors, and may his contributions leave a lasting impact on the world.

Amen."

[ulrik]

@hisefilo

[Christoph Hart]

But then as you point out we'll end up with two automation tracks for the same control which isn't good and it will definitely confuse users.

You end up with two automation tracks which do the same thing if you have recorded a MIDI CC automation and the plugin parameter automation, so that's a point on my side, no?

[hisefilo]

@Christoph-Hart @d-healey You are much more experienced than me. If you think the expected behavior is the actual one, I'm ok with that. I just saw the opposite on commercial grade plugins.