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    • MorphoiceM
      Morphoice
      last edited by Morphoice

      I've noticed a strance behavior in my faust synth design

      a very short decay time seems to produce a very quiet blip, not just a short one of equal loudness than one with a longer decay. this only happens in hise, not in faust IDE

      here's a snippet

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      if you lower the decay ever so slightly you notice it getting quieter not just shorter....
      It can't be the waveform as it starts with -1 so something inside HISE is stealing the transient. can it have to do with buffer size?
      this also happens with no module tree envelope but a silent killer node etc. so the yellow hise envelope doesn't seem to be the problem. is there maybe some smoothing happening along the way?

      https://instagram.com/morphoice - 80s inspired Synthwave Music, Arcade & Gameboy homebrew!

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      • MorphoiceM
        Morphoice @Morphoice
        last edited by

        @Morphoice bump

        https://instagram.com/morphoice - 80s inspired Synthwave Music, Arcade & Gameboy homebrew!

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        • MorphoiceM
          Morphoice @Morphoice
          last edited by

          @Morphoice bump

          https://instagram.com/morphoice - 80s inspired Synthwave Music, Arcade & Gameboy homebrew!

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          • A
            aaronventure
            last edited by aaronventure

            RMS.

            Is it only in your current VCO design?

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            • MorphoiceM
              Morphoice @aaronventure
              last edited by Morphoice

              @aaronventure I don't know, I haven't designed other VCO's as I don't need those. the snipped provided is simple enough, it's a stock oscillator and a faust envelope. can't make it much simpler than that

              https://instagram.com/morphoice - 80s inspired Synthwave Music, Arcade & Gameboy homebrew!

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              • rglidesR
                rglides @Morphoice
                last edited by

                @Morphoice happens here too, no idea why

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