Piano Sustain
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I don't notice much difference in the tone when pressing the sustain pedal. The damper pedal affects the tone though and if you have a soft pedal that will also make a noticeable difference.
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@d-healey and the difference in the sustain sound? if we press the key for a long time without the pedal or with the pedal? is it the same on the original piano?
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@Robert-Puza it can't be the same. something blocks the piano if we don't press the pedal. if the pedal is pressed, it unlocks the strings. or not?
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@Robert-Puza If you hold the key down without the sustain pedal then the sound will decay fairly quickly. If you hold the sustain pedal it will decay more slowly. But you don't need to record separate sustained samples, just hold down your keyboard's sustain pedal or use CC64 and you will get a very good approximation of a sustain pedal with your non-sustain samples.
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@d-healey CC64? how is the sustain midi pedal normally set - factory. what CC? Not 64?
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@Robert-Puza CC64 is sustain pedal
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@d-healey but you know, it's the same as when I hold the keyboard for a long time without sustain. or not?
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@Robert-Puza the original sustain must be recorded so that the key is not pressed for a long time, but the pedal is.
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@Robert-Puza said in Piano Sustain:
@d-healey but you know, it's the same as when I hold the keyboard for a long time without sustain. or not?
I don't understand the question, can you rephrase it?
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@d-healey of course. If you hold down a key on the midi keyboard for a long time but you don't have your foot on the pedal, it's the same as if you hit the midi keyboard briefly but you have your foot on the pedal.
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@Robert-Puza but it is not the same for pianos
I need samples that were recorded with someone's foot on the pedal
at the moment, the more important sample for me is recorded so that the foot was on the pedal.
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@Robert-Puza said in Piano Sustain:
If you hold down a key on the midi keyboard for a long time but you don't have your foot on the pedal, it's the same as if you hit the midi keyboard briefly but you have your foot on the pedal
You can control this behaviour using an envelope.
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@d-healey I like your idea and it's definitely a good way to simulate sustain. But..
but is it technically possible? another sample map without CC64 And another sample map with active CC64? Or another sampler ? Possible?
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@Robert-Puza said in Piano Sustain:
another sample map without CC64 And another sample map with active CC64?
CC64 is a MIDI controller, the user can use it with any sample map.
If you want to record two sets of samples, sustained and not sustained then do that, but it's a lot of work and unnecessary.
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@d-healey yes. but it is necessary. The sustain of the piano is fascinating and I would like to highlight it. Thank You
The sound of a piano without a sustain pedal and with a sustain pedal are 2 different sound dimensions of a piano. if we use only one - ok. but the sustained version is more important - especially if we are creating a piano for calm - slow - melancholic music.
it is bad if the sustain of the virtual piano has a BLOCKED STRING sample. (pedal down, the string unlocks)
