Gain Envelope Intensity <100% - Tail Cutoff
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When the intensity of a gain envelope is set to < 1.0, there is an abrupt cutoff of the sound after the release time has elapsed? It doesn't feel like this is working properly. I believe it should be proportional drop off rather than a hard cut. That is how it operates with all my analog synths and how it works for functions like the HISE filter envelope for example. I've been getting around this by using the attack level rather than the intensity. But is not the same thing.
Not sure if this is a bug or intentional. Anyone else having this issue?
Can you help me confirm that this is a bug?
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friendly bump.
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@CyberGen there is a voice kill threshold compiler flag that was added a few weeks ago.
Search for "threshold" in commits and you'll find it.
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@aaronventure Found it, HISE_SILENCE_THRESHOLD_DB.
But what is a good value for it? I can tell that it's doing something but I may not be understanding how it works because it still cuts off the tail of the gain envelope. Initially I tried HISE_SILENCE_THRESHOLD_DB=1, as with most preprocessors, but it still produced a sharp cut in the envelope release. Then I thought it could be a db value, so I tried -60, -99, 99, all of them still produce a cutoff in the tail.How do I set it up so the I can use maximum length release with the full spectrum of intensity values?
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@CyberGen you can check the changes in that commit, I think it has a comment about how it's to be used. Or the commit description.
I think I may have misunderstood your issue, if your reelease cuts off halfway through.
Have you tried creating an envelope in scriptnode? The ahdsr module is in there in full form.
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@aaronventure I tried with scriptnode, but I quickly realized I was in over my head in scriptnode world, mainly because of the mod tabs, I am using global modulators on all mod tabs. Not sure I have the skills to workaround the issue in that way. I'll give it another shot though I feel that there might just be something broken with the gain envelope, considering the same issue is not present when using the envelope with other processors, like the filter for example.
Thank you for the tips.
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@CyberGen check this, maybe it'll help
[Bug] Using a global simple envelope breaks Sampler's retrigger handling · Issue #453 · christophhart/HISE
Create a global modulator container. Create a Simple Envelope. Create a Sampler. Set the retrigger mode to "Do Nothing" so you can play repeating notes indefinitely. Hold the pedal for sustain to check that they are in fact stacking. Rep...
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