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      Win Conway
      last edited by

      OK, going in circles, just wait till i do a screen recording to show it ;)

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      • ustkU
        ustk
        last edited by

        we both agree (I think)
        but please try the snippet when you can and tell me if it works or not on a song for instance because here it works

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          Jay @ustk
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          @ustk it's working for me on a song. Its side is separate from the mid, if I can recall ch 5&6 are the side and 7&8 mid, but I'm not home now to be sure.

          Joansi Villalona

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            ustk
            last edited by

            @Jay Glad it works for you 😉
            almost, the Mid is 7-8 and Side 9-10

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              Win Conway @Jay
              last edited by

              @Jay rereading the tgread, im unsure why there would be any gain changing or encoding decoding, non of that is needed ?
              I will look at the snippet as soon as i get chance, I dunno, maybe HISE cant do simple things like split a stereo signal in to two mono and pan etc, I just assumed this was as easy as doing it in a DAW.

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                Jay @Win Conway
                last edited by Jay

                @Win-Conway I haven't try it in a daw yet, just in HISE. But if you can take a look a the code and fix anything you think needs fixing will be good.

                Joansi Villalona

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                  Win Conway @Jay
                  last edited by Win Conway

                  @Jay i will be home tomorrow and do a vid showing it done with just routing and phase invert ;)

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                  • JayJ
                    Jay
                    last edited by Jay

                    @orange I implemented the Mid-Side into a plugin I'm building but when compiled there is no audio coming out, I can see is doing something in the meters but no sound. Any Idea?

                    Joansi Villalona

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                      orange @Jay
                      last edited by

                      @Jay maybe a routing issue. Did you check the outputs?

                      develop Branch / XCode 13.1
                      macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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                        Jay @orange
                        last edited by Jay

                        @orange yes, but it work fine in HISE standalone and VST

                        Joansi Villalona

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                          Jay @ustk
                          last edited by

                          @ustk when exporting the plugin no audio is coming out

                          Joansi Villalona

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                          • ustkU
                            ustk
                            last edited by

                            @Jay have you added the MS alongside a standard LR?
                            have you implemented a "switching" button for selecting the modes? so you can select bus 1-2 for LR or 11-12 for MS by the mean of gain modules for instance...

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                              ustk
                              last edited by

                              It might be because of these two lines in the "MS Encode" module:

                              channels[0] * 0;
                              channels[1] * 0;
                              

                              Just get a rid of that, it is muting the LR (but you should have something in your MS path anyway, it is working for me when I export a standalone)

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                                Jay @ustk
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                                @ustk All I did was just add this to my project(plugin) and I have assigned what fx goes to what, but nothing for selecting bus 1-2 or 11-12 for MS, just as you add the Gain module

                                Joansi Villalona

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                                  Jay @ustk
                                  last edited by

                                  @ustk now after deleting this, the audio is passing but there's not fx happening

                                  Joansi Villalona

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                                  • ustkU
                                    ustk
                                    last edited by

                                    Do you have 12 channels ?
                                    Have you inserted the MS section at the top of your FX modules?
                                    Are the MS FXs at the right place (between the encoder/decoder)?
                                    It's hard to tell with limited information ;)

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                                      Jay @ustk
                                      last edited by

                                      @ustk Yes I leave everything as it is in the snippet you gave us, I just place my fx modules in between encoder/decoder and I put the fx modules that are supposed to be affecting the MID in ch 7/8 and the one affecting the SIDES in ch 9/10, and that's all I did.

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                                      • ustkU
                                        ustk
                                        last edited by

                                        Ok, do you see all the levels moving in the different modules?
                                        What is your sound source?
                                        You can export your own snippet so I could have a look, but not before tomorrow morning

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                                          Win Conway
                                          last edited by

                                          Im running late getting home, is HISE incapable of simple routing ? I see zero reason at all for any encoding/decoding of any kind, its a simple case of stereo to mono, phase invert.

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                                            Jay @ustk
                                            last edited by Jay

                                            @ustk yeah everything is moving. sound source is wave file in loop player

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