<![CDATA[MidiFX Plugin from Hise]]>This is my findings so far, regarding compiling a "Midi FX Plugin" from Hise.

Tested in Logic, Live and Reaper

  • Live
    Au version is not recognized
    VST3 is recognized but not able to open the GUI, and it doesn't have any affect in Live
    VST2 is recognized and I'm able to open the GUI but it's dead.

Not dead, see the post regarding Ableton Live further down

  • Logic
    The au version (of course), it's recognized and I can open the GUI. All tests works.

  • Reaper
    The au version is not recognized at all, the VST3 is recognized but is not working
    The VST2 version is working. All tests works.

The tests

  • Arpeggiator
  • Midi Player
  • Midi drop
  • Midi drag
  • Able to send and receive midi CC
  • Tempo sync to host
  • Free tempo regardless of host tempo
  • Recording:

Logic only records pressed keys, nothing from the Midi FX plugin

Reaper records all the output from the Midi FX plugin, note events and midi cc

I miss the opportunity to use LFOs inside, I haven't been able to get them to work, I don't know if it's possible??

Here's a video
MidiFXPlugin Video

I used this snippet project to test

HiseSnippet 3437.3oc6as0jZibEVXaYavY7kMaUIOjGTMURJbrs.AL3YxdI.Rba3lLhggY1ZytBoFPFgjPRv.rY2xOtul+A6K4kjeDY+ojeB447xltkDfz.hAXsSkGlYpBU8kyo+Nm9bo6VsX0UE.FFp5XAB1XpF.Kvu.maphYO5d7RJXEYvBb.dEIQobsRqqQDCKyTMdCCfHVf.2MOpKABdOLq+92+oL7x7JBfkUgg0TUR.TVZfj4xZYSURRVNGuHngz.W8NQphBpJzpxpifv4t3Qwz3E5y2ETkG0s6fiE39YEkLU04L4MAFXAtWFUwob8TuRwt+MkLjZKCPEnv3fLxt5bpxhHDipEitmjrH6bw1.CxE1kJg6ZqD9XKYdQ8KUFO0pAhkT3VeD3Ndg2c8.OJ2vKpK3sFHcWWP5AymWrfjL+Tftq4EBmZbiC5Q55.ESNvvQ.OyGOMkSSMzgZV2SckUU0xpvCQmn6pQLuMrqbZ.uMD3tasnRsQQEyx3RRFXMSLu.r2HQDNkyvaxicm+1cvOJZbRkFIKcLct2jdFEMYqVJyJxTnHOMYMxZCUNcw+ZoY5SO6ETMGe0nnpEnxjbX0WGcL4aXSTrWW1dWTWKwaY3NcZ4hQKzJ4k5YRWucqxoUJ2nVgzcZj63SFzhjIGoTZV0QB8Kc4T9ST34DpVa53DTmjP7nxsxKlTM4al19zjMO6EbxQKWm+33BT54uRWXlD6zFLlmMJ2kkLHaoIlqvvqnGJVkcnb9IUEH6jHWl9FxutzIsxOYrVdoZkh1KqRilWd0rDLMJPWgVfte82zexrKZe4vVkKdQoVUKYDszaad9om2XTFN9homTOu1klZ5hmIUpByaf0VmWsW7bG0VpZClBwpKlqqIMStX0GjtyIG0Ht3Qm2SdJM44EOgLigJMy4brr0i27nAhmnkFvqwSxNksfXxXSOobAtNCUAQunPOEI12NVH5.xYkJ2KdyIwxHLnN4vW71wmwEukZxtyp0YRbsiZV3xJJEhwMfTRl6zdQGBqLc+5CORugYylstrAneBpw4qWsV+5kp2ucoi4JjXXySiwdRbUv3rU43OdRhpSRz4szjkkSpAljWraqBU5VKyw8Nk8EiO40mRln7XR9JIZ2hpaY1n4yvySl9Rw1EnzIiOS67YTlIHufucwY5LW91y.Yl0rJuPmAL0RdgjYknW0ZZ4xS3yK7FA4LUozFIY1OyjyUml9nR0Ng5rSFLHlB43imk83KpVZ7PQ1SnpdQF5iGxlgrSMZZkS4ISlVevvrG0X5a6OtTmAWztOek9YvPlt1Aq9q3QNy.naDYjrtT+1ph.kHkkZqyqOMRE01v9QvnJLZ.zWzHhf5fuiWSSF7czvXehvFLhTnHWVB150NMKcCtHoqxTOMWDVn2CAzWTBx5HKCGDYgOTj58lZ1aPjz0Y4hbFKjLlZmWkbfDJt.JZKmTWEdyQ5PHhWczfL7PePna8+3uC+6+7jTUUGHAa2JcvhXFL.k0UMJjAz8W2zc7d63HdBUfcqS8sN025TeqS8sN025TeqS8sN025TeqS8sN0+Oyo10QIbO6iR3Y3bB5RZlKaA4s+H7hJl.8N7B.Omlfcewty8ChSqB6ghI4.99fb5vBKnHbxnQeIA7mm+IgBInpXXRLlWmHstFnaWID1oH9LBqSVhrKvzyoqD9P2c6PHGVxfkZ4UH2p1vG55PP7RJjoVGaQ41xPZmCcH0zpCzTUfErF348wKwYXq3KQv1714BpFlah.m18RDMcMEeo.0Hp6gBoC5RHnNRwD12nexxhRJBvZL0GA9jPQhXqYLPlCHyL8vTQnrmKhDInkFhl1yXCM9ZaoS8a7s6v0gbSd4QfMPkU61.WRQVRAPzYjhfojpBgpxxYMzuHVnqJGVXN8uDNFPpednuITPoNDgcJEL3R5H0fOBijqf.YCf21LLU0BSgZ7agi+5QnWHb3yIMPMaADZdYYzQcE1Gf5iP4HyaTZblc.JhNcSFNCMWEiPnEKB+74zrIIXgNd8P2KbrvrkMixX3r1WbHzr3vWR.eDiw4oyiF1OS3TcBmGNUerS0G67.VcHDuR5TOUx4OcHH9b9GO17mNsjb9PjLw7mMN7KWutct24FUtticfzIoMM0kZOxDD1SKVLpjhZ6kJ4ft79QTF9PSvDSHpTF+EV84K23Lwbp8ap3Zn2dtXUgzI3vV6N.KFLqRWHWPCqE0ZCB+JJj.EDxHaIAXeVtPgoCOzSA032N2o4aVeGQwRrXxpbG06klo1LyeEyhvcqWu3Uf8ws5lzHqhwa10YCXxKdbgipplfZJgWLKrHEDz4kUGfxQVBL0H7yI9ThXD+9euUXc25Ja0sqH3AC5avZjVMDw0G8Nc1tgm54t3splMqQJDOrzUDHKtBKanJCH0zkf5nJPVx2EXq3l2Q63TVy6d4kyPLGb1B4m+YDTjQe9bg1NOkkQHT.c2wOEpNVoi1IzB5tivFVzIhWXQD0xD.1U+pEUCkH6PfnIZ6IA6t7GHnh8ZjRdd6B83U5BD8UEEVwRtca0g5HbUTde0G3a2q9Pv1lzUGUUJpHYVSCn32qlBywPFCKvANnB1USqEw8XmEwkYjoopBFZIlAwc7svrfr6EFh4G4bxRh.cKxwwWCoUSsMj9PbXzNncx0olXqnND97Xk6.8tj66iW4rFYuNsvk9tUzVnVYlMovtmMsejGbyhd+Y1zCWrO00o+2jRDsw4.QwiGiD9mb5zveYJC+gkkz4OVFF3uwGA+oPZZ3umTZ2F1XWeX+0dG1NCyfF1SgCS7gngkEACkbvxiUPkyhZ+0mxraCa7aRZOBMLEJfjtdngoEZXhmGVlUCU1D0dYOC6lLNluRocXB1E8vcsX6v6g7eP6UmuU1VOE26pA2AWKOVYn7Bqg1yJZcBKv8Y43pCc+0.5lRnHKAX.ikD.1aZKHNCvnOLvNVfOdQRMr.OXKhFLY4P9aSMcQg28EotRRzr2xV+yo5Aj51y0VJ+7Tn0Dg1xn8aG1ZuNDv7sHwdAHd7MDSwO.vu8..xH3fNfeIqd2vTvMVKJCXUMjPgtWzxO1NkgIPiSZlGqEQPG9Qx1IEbeqCF39VLj.R5TYq22dAUcoYvYEdYLiQc5HMAMOthrGzV1OvQ1Ky2FHaI5O1cMwboCRAboCfJDu5fTZqnCXbzAPawhLEIx0hfs7Y4KVEqCDcdkxDo.vjS7V4eBb2cGmTtv4656FmEu9bknuyUGfhRjMe9hoaTq9Z.YTeA4St4LL9XKgobc83WuF7oMO4ZQKA28NDvz304G.LAVs8DzwyvgLhrgvbAq5YUH3JWjIacNOFiXeseFiXr6fwXzMZ8EBmvFNFdr.OXaRrNws2wtp1rk9GfywlMKiW4Nlux8g6fb+wqWtgqUpAbnynNw550DvkPGxOy4CvcssN2VKXXScWXqEabb3NdwVZwZewjP2hF2vYolVxDLv9RLECxr6+rm8r4oIVz6GdSKkwOibyq6D13miQ9iwsOmOmweaQn0Bl7Ag+qQuWQHbvTkE2i3swcCvKbAPB8qAve367cl+w3Uq0HKAzmOCxeeWBj8fsYQi9.wUlkWEhu6MaTGt65qD9Aludx1quBg2La4ZzEabwNoqd31rRWefWpY+b0UKGthJhfIy2J1tp.OxODBAzVq.Ov1fqb1p4aT38sNzWWhTu6CfNLlGcXnsY48KgGwews6PhadUhESsRxXO2L00kIx+70qY1eiarvOf2XWA9O9Uo1ej9HSmqtpMRyIqxaJozsA584ZqoQ6jgAt+B+VLv65byKFnXJmMpzvwfCwzZiA5v8Fwxq.cMZ2c9U3M38gD76PTsLmHp1u+6+9exasVYJYXXrp1ZGQAph+MgHHNjcoY2g+QBOusmWhZ2xfC1RTqR4TkkUu5bU89FZ7B.X8Vm7TnuEa20TV61ah6DGaPS8i5q3xz7+S0TT6fl5Aa+9h8SSsC6w6QKuQyaIJb1WsONf6xXihCQXcflXXqdevOvc7Nq2V50h.54Zf+d6tQu73+9kawgLbskysWGG1A30AF.y0yhs6XDu9Vm1qiD7Q3HNXgk8CEO0hAb8k7AFam5.xEUcSzQr+yQi.El4u8osPa7TGF.c.Zqh15ChEvD6N2l+EUuWmF1A30DL4GCpiN668SZBhy0CtgTYv9cTXOx4jjZHA1jHr4ygDF5FLPpAL9fqFtN29mefOC1OFuIPVUPxb5VCh2+mH6GgWFnz0r21qG1+SmcsVlOCmtGuBLcFGPFHfBOdyFlqkQ+J7ZiL0FY9dhcOCuBaVqKHiCCWwbcKc8dBhQYUD8gMQ2xWQg0FYW0iY0amCLypp3HYTdE2e2QnO1JmFPKBzcBGzsvQAt3vod9Bcde8wHssP7Y3rRlB8VOFuyZvHLs1GBLtHkc1NcfVPKA38vy05Cy2qEVc0QnUPVg2TGcPcVY.gKVCFs11nA8ZBCbGT.R6xQQkQZ.NfhnUgeB9mSiTnxAbZjZdiXC3EzU+JAaaMzWK0CspAhIEq67VP7JnxDKdYT33QIihA27fzWIHfD+WA2X65oI1dPS78flD6AMGsGzjbOn406AMGuQZPqlM8HS0A1tCvJXyZuj8.K9V6fai++loSxCG

Don't forget to compile Hise with this enabled in projucer

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]]>https://forum.hise.audio/topic/6089/midifx-plugin-from-hiseRSS for NodeFri, 06 Mar 2026 17:22:34 GMTTue, 26 Jul 2022 20:03:27 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Mon, 16 Jan 2023 12:19:18 GMT]]>@lalalandsynth yes, in Logic it works if compiled as MidiFX au, Logic will recognize cc

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/60992https://forum.hise.audio/post/60992Mon, 16 Jan 2023 12:19:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:52:20 GMT]]>@ulrik We got CC output to work as midi fx plugin if we export as AUv3 , but we are encountering problems with ui size and and some other minor ui issues. So I would love to be able to do a normal AU midifx plugin , did you make any progress with that ?

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/60982https://forum.hise.audio/post/60982Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:52:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Tue, 06 Sep 2022 06:21:30 GMT]]>@ulrik I found some crazy behavior using Hise MidiFX plugin inside Logic

When standing on the MidiFX activated track it works fine, as soon as I stand on another track it fails, the arp is running but it's not producing any midi out to the instrument even though the arp is running as it should

Hise MidiFX Arpeggiator

Compared to the Logics own arpeggiator

Logic MidiFX Arpeggiator

Any thoughts about what's happening here is much appreciated

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/54278https://forum.hise.audio/post/54278Tue, 06 Sep 2022 06:21:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 12:47:34 GMT]]>@jonhallur great, I'll test again

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53895https://forum.hise.audio/post/53895Tue, 23 Aug 2022 12:47:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 06:54:16 GMT]]>@ulrik No, I did not mess with the ProJucer project file at all it's just settings in HISE.

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I also did not compile the HISE Standalone editor again, if that is what you mean.

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53887https://forum.hise.audio/post/53887Tue, 23 Aug 2022 06:54:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Mon, 22 Aug 2022 19:42:55 GMT]]>@jonhallur am I supposed to set the extra definitions in Hise preferences as well?
And do I set the Hise projucer "HISE_MIDIFX_PLUGIN" enabled?

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]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53876https://forum.hise.audio/post/53876Mon, 22 Aug 2022 19:42:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Mon, 22 Aug 2022 19:38:42 GMT]]>@jonhallur I don't know if I did. it the right way but...

I changed the code (as you described), compiled Hise Standalone with the extra definitions, exported as FX plugin from Hise but it didn't show up in Logic under the Midi FX slot

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53875https://forum.hise.audio/post/53875Mon, 22 Aug 2022 19:38:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Mon, 22 Aug 2022 17:45:09 GMT]]>@ulrik Please let me know, I don't have a Mac and I'm very curious about Logic.

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53874https://forum.hise.audio/post/53874Mon, 22 Aug 2022 17:45:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 21:31:29 GMT]]>@jonhallur Ok I see, I might give it a try and see if also Logic will accept it as a MidiFX plugin, thanks! :)

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53861https://forum.hise.audio/post/53861Sun, 21 Aug 2022 21:31:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 20:46:56 GMT]]>@ulrik With out knowing it completely, I don't think under the VST2 or even VST3 (I´ve done some professional JUCE work before using VST3) there is no concept of a MIDI FX plugin.

At least in JUCE, you just tell the host that you want to receive and/or send MIDI. You can do the same with sound, stating how many channels you want to input/output etc.

I have no idea what a given host does with that information. The host will ask a plugin upon instantiation weather it will produce audio and/or MIDI. A JUCE plugin can answer yes to both. Perhaps some hosts will decide to put some plugins into some categories, but it works on Windows both in Reaper and Ableton Live

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53860https://forum.hise.audio/post/53860Sun, 21 Aug 2022 20:46:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 20:38:08 GMT]]>@jonhallur If I change the code to this and export the plugin as FX plugin, will it really load as a Midi FX plugin?

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53859https://forum.hise.audio/post/53859Sun, 21 Aug 2022 20:38:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Sun, 21 Aug 2022 20:39:13 GMT]]>@ulrik More updates.

If you like to use modulators and MIDI I have found the least changes you can do to the HISE code to make that happen.

diff --git a/hi_core/hi_core/MainController.cpp b/hi_core/hi_core/MainController.cpp
index 2863465c6..5a40b119e 100644
--- a/hi_core/hi_core/MainController.cpp
+++ b/hi_core/hi_core/MainController.cpp
@@ -975,7 +975,7 @@ void MainController::processBlockCommon(AudioSampleBuffer &buffer, MidiBuffer &m
                }
     }

-#elif HISE_MIDIFX_PLUGIN
+#elif defined(HISE_MIDIFX_PLUGIN) || defined(ALLOW_MIDI_OUTPUT)

        synthChain->processHiseEventBuffer(masterEventBuffer, numSamplesThisBlock);

@@ -1149,7 +1149,9 @@ void MainController::processBlockCommon(AudioSampleBuffer &buffer, MidiBuffer &m
 #endif

 #if !HISE_MIDIFX_PLUGIN
+       #if !ALLOW_MIDI_OUT
        midiMessages.clear();
+       #endif
 #endif

 }

Then I added the following extra definitions

JucePlugin_ProducesMidiOutput=1
JucePlugin_IsMidiEffect=1
ENABLE_ALL_PEAK_METERS=1 
ALLOW_MIDI_OUT=1

Export the plugin as a FX (not as MIDIFX) and Bob is your uncle.

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53832https://forum.hise.audio/post/53832Sun, 21 Aug 2022 20:39:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Thu, 18 Aug 2022 16:19:07 GMT]]>@jonhallur Beautiful find! Thank you for showing, works great with Midi FX plugin vst2 🙏🏻

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53723https://forum.hise.audio/post/53723Thu, 18 Aug 2022 16:19:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Thu, 18 Aug 2022 06:50:48 GMT]]>@ulrik Did you know of this little quirky setup needed for Ableton Live MIDI output, because I did not. My VST2 from HISE on windows work fine both in Ableton Live and Reaper.

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209070189-Accessing-the-MIDI-output-of-a-VST-plug-in

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53672https://forum.hise.audio/post/53672Thu, 18 Aug 2022 06:50:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Thu, 18 Aug 2022 06:43:05 GMT]]>@Christoph-Hart said in MidiFX Plugin from Hise:

@ulrik setting the AU_MidiProcessor flag might be useful for Au export. Let me know if this changes anything then I‘ll hook it up into the exporter.

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This is from the Ableton Live website
I did not know about this limitation before

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53671https://forum.hise.audio/post/53671Thu, 18 Aug 2022 06:43:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Wed, 27 Jul 2022 16:23:43 GMT]]>@d-healey ok, I didn’t know that, great thank you 🙏

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53185https://forum.hise.audio/post/53185Wed, 27 Jul 2022 16:23:43 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Wed, 27 Jul 2022 09:26:18 GMT]]>@ulrik I was talking about compiling your project as a plugin, not compiling HISE. Those settings are accessible in your project's .jucer file.

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53181https://forum.hise.audio/post/53181Wed, 27 Jul 2022 09:26:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Wed, 27 Jul 2022 07:03:44 GMT]]>@d-healey @Christoph-Hart aha, you were talking about compiling Hise as a plugin right?
That's why I couldn't find the settings in the Hise Standalone project
Those settings are in the Hise Plugin project not for the the Hise standalone.

I'm talking about compiling a MidiFX plugin from Hise standalone.

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]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53178https://forum.hise.audio/post/53178Wed, 27 Jul 2022 07:03:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Wed, 27 Jul 2022 06:42:42 GMT]]>@Christoph-Hart I'll experiment with it, thanks!

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53177https://forum.hise.audio/post/53177Wed, 27 Jul 2022 06:42:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Wed, 27 Jul 2022 05:57:58 GMT]]>@ulrik setting the AU_MidiProcessor flag might be useful for Au export. Let me know if this changes anything then I‘ll hook it up into the exporter.

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53176https://forum.hise.audio/post/53176Wed, 27 Jul 2022 05:57:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:06:14 GMT]]>@d-healey no I didn't even know about it :)
Thanks for showing, interesting

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53170https://forum.hise.audio/post/53170Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:06:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to MidiFX Plugin from Hise on Tue, 26 Jul 2022 20:56:49 GMT]]>@ulrik Have you experimented with different plugin categories and types?

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]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/53168https://forum.hise.audio/post/53168Tue, 26 Jul 2022 20:56:49 GMT