About Rule Tec



  • Hi everyone
    I've just released Rule Tec Collection. Special thanks to @Christoph-Hart , beta testers and HISE family for all of your support.

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    https://www.noiseash.com/rule-tec-heritage-pro/



  • Very nice interface 🙂 but no mention of HISE on the site or in the manual???



  • @d-healey Thanks.
    Of course there is, Didn't you see? On the product page 😉

    https://www.noiseash.com/rule-tec-heritage-pro/#availableformats



  • @orange said in About Rule Tec:

    @d-healey Thanks.
    Of course there is, Didn't you see? On the product page 😉

    https://www.noiseash.com/rule-tec-heritage-pro/#availableformats

    I like it 🙂



  • @orange Sounds great, Looks great. Congrats.
    You are one of the best developers in this Hise community!



  • @orange Sounds great, congratulations!!



  • Congrats, really nice UI and teaser video!



  • Wouaw! That's pro! 👏 👏 👏



  • Love it!!! UI rocks! Wish you the best on this release. Fingers crossed



  • @d-healey so HISE has to be mentioned on releases ?
    That will put some developers off.



  • Good luck with the release, but do keep in mind that personally i started the demo download, saw it was 279mb for one plugin and just cancelled the download straight away, I am not going to install an EQ that takes up that much space on my drive, never mind three, that is near enough an entire gigabyte for three plugins, have you considered "Basic UI" versions ?



  • Congrats.



  • @Win-Conway said in About Rule Tec:

    @d-healey so HISE has to be mentioned on releases ?

    No, but it's nice to spread the word.



  • @Win-Conway said in About Rule Tec:

    @d-healey so HISE has to be mentioned on releases ?
    That will put some developers off.

    Like @d-healey said, it would be nice to spread the Hise. And also it would be so nice to thank @Christoph-Hart who worked so hard to make it possible and make the new developer's dream come true 😉

    @Win-Conway said in About Rule Tec:

    Good luck with the release, but do keep in mind that personally i started the demo download, saw it was 279mb for one plugin and just cancelled the download straight away, I am not going to install an EQ that takes up that much space on my drive, never mind three, that is near enough an entire gigabyte for three plugins, have you considered "Basic UI" versions ?

    No, I never considered basic vector graphics for an analog emulation. Because analog emulation lovers like the gui that is closer to the original machine's gui feel. The big size is about the high resolution graphics that is never a matter for today's high tech and high storaged computer situations imo.



  • @orange
    I never said vector, I said basic, if HISE can only do graphics of usable quality at 280mb when other plugins are released much smaller sizes, then that is an issue, a serious issue, storage size is very much still a concern, there is a lot of musicians now using portable devices, so these plugins would be a no go on Surface or IOS device, you just couldn't afford to lose near an entire gigabyte on three plugins.

    @d-healey @orange
    That doesn't really hold, unless specifically demanded to do so in the licence, then there is little to no reason at all to mention HISE, it is a development platform that will gather momentum at its own pace, if people wish to promote it then thats their choice, but there should be no remarks at all to developers about mentioning it in threads like this, that will drive away potential users, even if only users of the forum, it certainly gave me the wrong impression, but I am used to just asking, as i did.



  • @Win-Conway said in About Rule Tec:

    @orange
    I never said vector, I said basic, if HISE can only do graphics of usable quality at 280mb when other plugins are released much smaller sizes...

    The size of graphics is determined by the image files the developer uses not by HISE.

    @d-healey @orange
    there is little to no reason at all to mention HISE,

    I thought to be nice was a good reason. But simply giving credit to Christoph for his hard work is also a good reason, everyone else on a VI project gets credited so why not the main developer also.

    it is a development platform that will gather momentum at its own pace,

    But word of mouth is one of the best forms of advertising and will hopefully increase the pace.

    if people wish to promote it then thats their choice,

    Sure is

    but there should be no remarks at all to developers about mentioning it in threads like this,

    Our opinions obviously diverge here.

    that will drive away potential users, even if only users of the forum,

    I see no evidence of this (and driving you away doesn't count 😛 ) To be fair though Orange is a regular around here so I may not have said anything to a newbie.



  • You see no evidence because most people read a forum before joining, if they are put off by what they read, why would you ever see any evidence ?
    HISE should be treated the same as any other development platform, Christoph gets paid as he asks to get paid, or do you also ask that Jules is mentioned or JUCE or C++ or Javascript, no of course not, so asking for HISE to be mentioned actually denigrates it to Synthedit and Synthmaker level in the eyes of some.



  • If there are 270mb of images in that plugin, then i would be very surprised, that UI doesn't warrant 270mb of imagery, that is a lot of images, or indeed very big images.



  • @Win-Conway said in About Rule Tec:

    If there are 270mb of images in that plugin, then i would be very surprised, that UI doesn't warrant 270mb of imagery, that is a lot of images, or indeed very big images.

    I'm assuming he is using images at 200% resolution so they will display well on everything from 4K down to 1K screens. But almost certainly the images could be optimized.



  • Even double sized imagery this seems extreme, I have designed the UI for a lot of software over the years, and yes i know that HISE isn't capable of using compressed imagery like .png (Which is a downer) but 270mb, I didn't actually bother installing the demo because of the size and to be fair, EQ is not that exciting to me anymore, maybe it has fixed sizes and he created images for every single fixed size down, which again would be insane amounts of work for little gain.

    By the way, I don't want anybody thinking i am trying to be down on @orange plugins, it is getting some stellar reviews for its sound, I am just discussing the file size.


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